Tilt Mulligan: Betgo?? You have some 'splaining to do.

mikeJ · #1 09-02-2007, 10:05 PM

Full Tilt Poker Game #3443359910: The Sunday Mulligan (25548334), Table 17 - 250/500 Ante 50 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:58:26 ET - 2007/09/02
Seat 1: CountdeMonet88 (11,594)
Seat 2: JOEYTHEB (5,563)
Seat 3: Vick12 (20,890)
Seat 4: mogao (5,699)
Seat 5: SirWatts (22,270)
Seat 6: betgo (12,375)
Seat 7: Bobbieblitz (4,385)
Seat 8: polkhighpanther (4,795)
Seat 9: Jnatale12 (31,658)
CountdeMonet88 antes 50
JOEYTHEB antes 50
Vick12 antes 50
mogao antes 50
SirWatts antes 50
betgo antes 50
Bobbieblitz antes 50
polkhighpanther antes 50
Jnatale12 antes 50
SirWatts posts the small blind of 250
betgo posts the big blind of 500
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to mogao [4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]]
Bobbieblitz folds
polkhighpanther folds
Jnatale12 folds
CountdeMonet88 folds
JOEYTHEB folds
Vick12 folds
mogao raises to 5,649, and is all in
SirWatts folds
betgo has 15 seconds left to act
betgo calls 5,149
mogao shows [4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]]
betgo shows [7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]]

Also, betgo, what did you have when you cold 4-bet me. I had ATdd.

betgo · #2 09-02-2007, 10:33 PM

I cold 4-bet you with 99. That was a terrible fold getting like 2.5-1.

I think it was a good call with T7s. I had a pretty good read on you on those two hands and in general.

mikeJ · #3 09-02-2007, 10:40 PM

I didn't think you had guts to move in w/ anything other than JJ+/AK.

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 70.168% 69.21% 00.96% 156425952 2171364.00 { JJ+, AKs, AKo }
Hand 1: 29.832% 28.87% 00.96% 65255448 2171364.00 { ATs }

Bond18 · #4 09-02-2007, 10:43 PM

Betgo, i think your over estimating your reads importance. There are an absolute ton of hands in Mikes range that beat you. Punch it into pstove, this isn't good.

betgo · #5 09-02-2007, 10:56 PM

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I didn't think you had guts to move in w/ anything other than JJ+/AK.

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 70.168% 69.21% 00.96% 156425952 2171364.00 { JJ+, AKs, AKo }
Hand 1: 29.832% 28.87% 00.96% 65255448 2171364.00 { ATs }

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I thought you might be reraising light and I get good pot odds when the original raiser folds. I thought I had a little FE, as you might have junk.

mikeJ · #6 09-02-2007, 10:59 PM

It was definitely correct for you to 4-bet 99, just wasn't sure if you'd do it.

betgo · #7 09-02-2007, 11:04 PM

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Betgo, i think your over estimating your reads importance. There are an absolute ton of hands in Mikes range that beat you. Punch it into pstove, this isn't good.

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I was getting huge pot odds. With the big ante, I figured he was pushing very light light OTB. It is not good if you assign a tight range, but T7s is 40% against a top 50% hand. I would probably push wider than that. I think the read is very important here, as some people would push much tighter. As the HH shows, I went into the tank on this.

THAY3R · #8 09-03-2007, 04:30 AM

betgowned

Chaoslord · #9 09-03-2007, 07:36 AM

you risk almost 50% of your stack in a situation where the best you can hope for is a coinflip, thats no good

betgo · #10 09-03-2007, 08:10 AM

I was putting in a little over 40% of my stack. I was getting 1.32-1 pot odds, putting in 43% of the money. I don't think gambling for part of my stack is bad.

The call is probably slightly cEV-, as villain would need to be pushing 60% of his hands for it to be cEV even. I had a feeling from the way OP was playing that he would push very loose.