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#101
12-12-2006, 11:26 PM
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Re: You Can Run The Hundred In 8.3
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simple, put em as a deffensive back, that speed is more useful for recovery and your the one making the hits. Also return specialist [/ QUOTE ] It would be MUCH more difficutl for average fast guy to be a good DB than a good WR. 
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#102
12-13-2006, 05:14 AM
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Re: You Can Run The Hundred In 8.3
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[ QUOTE ] this is possibly the most wrong post ive ever seen on here [/ QUOTE ] Not really. Sprinters are typically at full speed in 2-3 strides. If you have a great 40 time you will likely have a great 100 time and vice versa [/ QUOTE ] While I totaly agree that you probably can't be a top 100m runner without a great 40 time it doesn't go both ways. A lot of the training to be a great track & field sprinter is the ability to maintain max all-out speed after 60-70m (or as close as possible) and this is a skill that likely few football players have even if they have great 40 times. /Bjorn
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#103
12-13-2006, 12:41 PM
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Re: You Can Run The Hundred In 8.3
Looks like this guy could get Jeff George and his fantastic arm a job.
I think the main issue with the whole advantage has to do with the ability your to catch the ball in a game situation. If you cannot catch that post in a game, then the defense will treat you like any other third string receiver and not worry about you at all. Your actual threat is what will alter the opponents entire defense, not your speed, no matter how fast. I would think a year on the track circuit to set a couple of world records would greatly improve your endorsement potential. If you hold the 100m record while trying football you will receive far more media attention. Think about Deion's early career as a two sport guy.
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#104
12-13-2006, 01:32 PM
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Re: You Can Run The Hundred In 8.3
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I think the main issue with the whole advantage has to do with the ability your to catch the ball in a game situation. If you cannot catch that post in a game, then the defense will treat you like any other third string receiver and not worry about you at all. Your actual threat is what will alter the opponents entire defense, not your speed, no matter how fast. [/ QUOTE ] You're right about being able to catch the ball in traffic as being somewhat important, but you're wrong about how defenses will treat this guy. Defenses get stretched because of superior athletic ability/speed, not great hands. Jerry Rice never "stretched the defense" he just caught the ball in sick tight spaces becuase his hands were glue. If the defense doesn't stretch and treat this guy differently, it's pretty easy to catch the ball when you are five feet behind the nearest defender and the ball falls right into your hands. Because of that, this guy starts, do you see why?
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#105
12-13-2006, 04:10 PM
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Re: You Can Run The Hundred In 8.3
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1. Rod Woodson doesn't play corner, he plays free safety. [/ QUOTE ] Rod Woodson is retired. He was one of the best cornerbacks to ever play the game. He was a world class hurdler in college. He moved to safety late in his career.
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#106
12-13-2006, 04:16 PM
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Re: You Can Run The Hundred In 8.3
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[ QUOTE ] I think the main issue with the whole advantage has to do with the ability your to catch the ball in a game situation. If you cannot catch that post in a game, then the defense will treat you like any other third string receiver and not worry about you at all. Your actual threat is what will alter the opponents entire defense, not your speed, no matter how fast. [/ QUOTE ] You're right about being able to catch the ball in traffic as being somewhat important, but you're wrong about how defenses will treat this guy. Defenses get stretched because of superior athletic ability/speed, not great hands. Jerry Rice never "stretched the defense" he just caught the ball in sick tight spaces becuase his hands were glue. If the defense doesn't stretch and treat this guy differently, it's pretty easy to catch the ball when you are five feet behind the nearest defender and the ball falls right into your hands. Because of that, this guy starts, do you see why? [/ QUOTE ] Agreed on the ability to catch the ball in traffic. My comment on the ability to catch in game situations has more to do with the mental aspect of the game than the physical. Say the day you figure out this new skill you call your old HS quarterback to throw you a couple of deep balls. After a couple you get pretty good at it. Fast forward to NFL practice. That exact same play got a little more difficult simply because your environment changed. Now think about it being the third quarter against your division rival for the division lead and you're down by two touchdowns. Can you still make that catch in the open? If you demonstrate that you cannot, you will actually harm your offense as your team is effectively playing with 10 men.
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#107
12-13-2006, 11:38 PM
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Re: You Can Run The Hundred In 8.3
Also consider, that many deep plays in the NFL feature the reciever having to come back to the ball and/or outjump the defender.
If you look at Randy Moss's first two seasons with Vikings (when he was arguably most effective), very few of his long catches were flat out sprints to the ball. Moss was good because he was fast AND tall AND could adjust to the ball. It is like Steve Badger says about PLO8. You don't have a good hand unless you have an "AND". For an NFL receiver you have to be Fast AND something. The guy in David's scenario is just fast, nothing else.
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#108
12-13-2006, 11:41 PM
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Re: You Can Run The Hundred In 8.3
Randy Moss isn't LIGHTYEARS ahead of his competition in speed. There are plenty of corners who can keep up with him and thus he has to be able to jump or adjust to the ball.
This guy will be able to outrun anyone on the field so all he requires is a good throw.
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#109
12-13-2006, 11:44 PM
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Re: You Can Run The Hundred In 8.3
I don't think it's that easy. If I'm 15 yards off the ball this amount of speed isn't going to get him behind me. He is going to require the ability to run multiple routes effectively, if all he does is run posts and flys he will be easily covered. It is easy to stay behind someone when you know where the person is going to go.
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#110
12-14-2006, 12:24 AM
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Re: You Can Run The Hundred In 8.3
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I don't think it's that easy. If I'm 15 yards off the ball this amount of speed isn't going to get him behind me. He is going to require the ability to run multiple routes effectively, if all he does is run posts and flys he will be easily covered. It is easy to stay behind someone when you know where the person is going to go. [/ QUOTE ] If you're 15 yards off the line he's running a hitch for 7 yards.
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