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Old 10-18-2006, 01:19 AM
schwza schwza is offline
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Default nl200 6m: QQ gets 4bet by aggro

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No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $213.30
UTG+1: $208
CO: $208
Button: $186
SB: $287.10
Hero: $453.45

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $8</font>, UTG+1 calls, CO folds, Button calls, SB folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $38</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises all-in $213.3</font>, 2 folds, hero?

villain and i have been playing a lot of pots with each other, often 3betting each other. this is the first hand that either of us has 4bet the other. he is 20/18 in 449 hands.
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Old 10-18-2006, 01:39 AM
c_hoop c_hoop is offline
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Default Re: nl200 6m: QQ gets 4bet by aggro

i fold. AK is usually best case scenario in this spot unless you both have getting out of line.
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Old 10-18-2006, 01:40 AM
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Default Re: nl200 6m: QQ gets 4bet by aggro

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i fold. AK is usually best case scenario in this spot unless you both have getting out of line.

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i'm sure that he sees me as getting out of line with 3bets.
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Old 10-18-2006, 01:46 AM
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Default Re: nl200 6m: QQ gets 4bet by aggro

then call. i had this happen to me the other day. where i was villian. every time i raised UTG there was donk caller or two, then a good LAG villian would squeeze on the button. i folded 10s, AJ, saw a flop with KQs then c/f. finally i made a 'stand' with AQo and 4bet shoved into his AA, lol.


if you think villian is getting frustrated its a definate call.
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Old 10-18-2006, 01:50 AM
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Default Re: nl200 6m: QQ gets 4bet by aggro

Your 3-bet is too big.

My standard is to fold here, but given the read, I like a call. I think I still drop JJ/AK.

Edit: Sorry, I misread the action. 3-bet is fine.
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Old 10-18-2006, 01:55 AM
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Default Re: nl200 6m: QQ gets 4bet by aggro

Instacall. A lot of players have a bizarre reluctance to 4-bet with their best hands. AK is the worst case scenario against most villains.
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Old 10-18-2006, 02:07 AM
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Default Re: nl200 6m: QQ gets 4bet by aggro

3-bet size is good. Call/fold is pretty close. I probably call.
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Old 10-18-2006, 02:12 AM
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Default Re: nl200 6m: QQ gets 4bet by aggro

If you've been often 3-betting with that size(pretty big) then I like a call here.
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Old 10-18-2006, 02:14 AM
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Default Re: nl200 6m: QQ gets 4bet by aggro

I'd call, it's a huge overbet so I don't think I'd believe that he has an overpair.
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Old 10-18-2006, 02:17 AM
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Default Re: nl200 6m: QQ gets 4bet by aggro

Yeah it looks like he's trying to make a stand against your frequent 3 bets
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