4/180 88 vs flop shove.

[Brandonjp13]

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (8 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB (t3045)
UTG (t960)
UTG+1 (t2200)
Hero (t2345)
MP2 (t4190)
CO (t4090)
Button (t3954)
SB (t3707)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. UTG posts a blind of t100.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t300</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls t300, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG (poster) calls t200.

Flop: (t950) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets t660 (All-In)</font>, Hero ??

Villian just got moved to the table, and hasn't played a hand short of checking the BB. What kind of hands does he do this with AK, AQ and pairs? Maybe some completely random stone cold bluff? Do we fold?

[brad2002tj]

I might call if button wasn't still in teh hand. As played I always fold.

[Frank Zappy]

I'm confused, UTG folded how is he still in the hand?

[Brandonjp13]

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I'm confused, UTG folded how is he still in the hand?

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It's likely a conversion error, the hand however definately happened.

[APipeDream]

Hard to say vs unknowns, but I'd fold. You're probably against a QJ, QT, KQ, AQ, etc...possibly even Ax trying to steal or another pocket pair even. Unless I had "a feeling" though, I'm almost always folding this.

[Tackleberry]

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I'm confused, UTG folded how is he still in the hand?

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It's likely a conversion error, the hand however definately happened.

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UTG did not fold, he posted the dead blind. UTG+1 folded instead.

[BlueEcho]

You are getting close to 2.5-1 to call and you aren't even close to that against villians range. Plus there is another person to act. Villian's range is probably 66+, AK,QJ,QT,QK,QA at best case. That range gives us 3-1 and that's closer than I thought it would be but it's still a fold.

This should to be more of a math answer than anything else really.

[PantsOnFire]

Most villains are not doing this with air. The worst hand I expect to see from him (that you beat) is 44-77 and that's really stretching it. It's possible that he may do this with AK.

But with two players in the hand, I expect UTG to have something and usually something better than us. With only two likely outs, I fold, expecially with button behind me.

Hero has 20 BBs left. Save them for a better spot.