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08-01-2007, 01:12 AM
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Need Some Actual Advice Here
I will preface this by saying that I am not a minor, but can't buy lottery tickets (get it?.) It all started in October of 2006. I was finally allowed by my parents to deposit $20 onto Ultimate Bet. I was really stupid and naive having never played games other than freerolls online prior to this. I jumped to .50/1.00 (LOL-with $33!) I made $40 or so in like 5 minutes. But obv. managed to lose it just as quick. I am very emotional and upon losing my money I began crying privately (very childish I know) and became very upset. This was mainly because I viewed it as my only shot at playing with real $$ online...
As apprehensive as my Dad was, he let me put another $20 on a few days later after I explained that I did not understand the concept of bankroll management to him. I played SnGs, $1 Tourneys-you name it, nothing panned out. After a week my HIGH point was $33 1 tabling .25/.50 limit. I lost that in a few days, however. By this time I was getting noticeably upset and my parents said that this was the reason why they did not want me to play, but I was permitted to play freerolls and what not. I ran $1 to $50 a few times but never got further than that. A month or so later I was allowed to deposit $20 again but I of course lost that as well. I have a vivid memory of using my last $10 in a HU and losing to a 1-outer, I slammed the ground and was yelling/whining in the middle of the night and woke my parents up. They said no more... ...Christmas day, a month and a half since my last deposit if I remember correctly. I asked my Dad if I could deposit and I thought he said yes, so I did, but it turned out he never said yes that day. Regardless I ran through that in 2 days. Crying basically the whole time I was playing. No deposits for me in the near future! I played freerolls and did well, but obv payouts are terrible...I was finally allowed at the end of Februrary to deposit (the minimum was now $50) again. I peaked at maybe $80 playing mainly low level SnGs. I lost that... The next time I deposited was actually a stupid scam by me. I used $100 of birthday money to deposit though they thought I used it for something else. I played only $5 SnGs this time reaching a peak level of $336. Slowly but surely it dwindled away. I was at $175 after running horribly and in amidst my rage I decided to withdraw that $175, I did but told them to cancel it later that day. I had $225 a week later or so, and withdrew (for the first time ever) $75. My last $150 went quick as I mainly tilted it off in higher level HU SnGs than I couldnt afford. So I pocketed $75 from $100 that was $300 and change at one point... This was all extremely upsetting becaue as a young kid I had visions of getting rich quick and helping my family out (my Dad was layed off for two years and we are still experiencing financial problems because of it.) This is what upset me most. I felt like I left my family down, but they do not know this. Enter UBs cashier center. 6 weeks later it turns out the batch of checks mine was in had been botched up. I was eventually given $20 free because of the extreme delay from UB. My Dad had still said no poker but figured I might as well use the $20 because it was doing no good sitting in there. I played $1 SnGs with that money and went from $20 to $26 to $13 and a week later after many tantrums I was down to $5. I played a HU match for $5 and had $10 to work off of. I teeter tottered around $10-30 for a week or so. Once I had it going (I thought) at $58 I dropped down to $15 or so. Then I worked my way back up and eclipsed $100 then $200. I took out $50 once I reached $210 and took out $50 once more once hitting $210. I went nowhere for awhile with SnGs so once I was down to $45 I played some cash games which I had previously been horrible at. I somehow did well and ran my roll up to $100 or so in a few days playing $10 NL. Then I won a tourney for $150. My roll was $233. I took out $125 and built the rest up to $365 through tourneys and cash games. I moved up to 25NL for a few sessions and ran horribly. I ran in circles for a few days. Then I lost $125 and thougt the world was over. Down to $200 I played a $100 HU SnG...and lost. I then had $110. I deposited $20 to activate an Epassporte account and had $131 today. After various beats in tourneys and SnGs today I am now at $52... Here are my serious questions: I have $52, do I withdraw that and just take a break till I get $60 for rakeback in 2 weeks? Do I quit forever because I can not handle it? Play 10NL with $5 BIs like I had done previously? Withdraw the money and rakeback money and get new video game system instead of Poker? One last thing. I have nothing to do besides tennis, house work and a job 1 or 2 days a week (which is boring as hell.) I do not like hanging out with the kids I do AT school OUTSIDE of school because I do not like drugs/alcohol because again I would feel like I let my parents down. Keep my boredom in mind, because that is what helped lead me to my current state. Thanks all... 
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#2
08-01-2007, 02:04 AM
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Re: Need Some Actual Advice Here
Stop playing, get a full time job doing something somewhat enjoyable, and start drinking (and try some other stuff while you're at it). Poker is causing you nothing but grief and you need to stop ASAP or you will destroy yourself eventually. Come on back when you finish college and secure yourself a good job, as well an build a stronger character for yourself [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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#3
08-01-2007, 04:59 AM
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Re: Need Some Actual Advice Here
Yawn...
[ QUOTE ] Down to $200 I played a $100 HU SnG [/ QUOTE ] Wait until you're old enough to the play the lottery. Until then... Given that 80% of your posts are in BBV...take your $52 and buy three books. Any three, I don't care. Books on tournament play, books on poker theory, Harry Potter books, the Lord of the Rings trilogy. Just get away from your slot-machine style for a while. Take your future $60 rakeback and cash that out too. I'm not sure what hi-speed video game system you're picking up for $112 but maybe go with more books instead. Go work on your tennis game, clean your f'ing room, help mom with the dishes, find some new friends, etc. Or...reread the HIV classics and prep for a Busto v2.3 that makes his pale in comparision. Either way, best of luck to ya.
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#5
08-01-2007, 10:41 AM
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Re: Need Some Actual Advice Here
You possess almost every trait of an degenerate gambler.
http://www.gamblersanonymous.org/ You can't play poker anymore. Sorry! Just be glad it only cost you 100 dollars to find out.
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#6
08-01-2007, 12:42 PM
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Re: Need Some Actual Advice Here
[ QUOTE ]
I will preface this by saying that I am not a minor, but can't buy lottery tickets (get it?.) It all started in October of 2006. I was finally allowed by my parents to deposit $20 onto Ultimate Bet. I was really stupid and naive having never played games other than freerolls online prior to this. I jumped to .50/1.00 (LOL-with $33!) I made $40 or so in like 5 minutes. But obv. managed to lose it just as quick. I am very emotional and upon losing my money I began crying privately (very childish I know) and became very upset. This was mainly because I viewed it as my only shot at playing with real $$ online... As apprehensive as my Dad was, he let me put another $20 on a few days later after I explained that I did not understand the concept of bankroll management to him. I played SnGs, $1 Tourneys-you name it, nothing panned out. After a week my HIGH point was $33 1 tabling .25/.50 limit. I lost that in a few days, however. By this time I was getting noticeably upset and my parents said that this was the reason why they did not want me to play, but I was permitted to play freerolls and what not. I ran $1 to $50 a few times but never got further than that. A month or so later I was allowed to deposit $20 again but I of course lost that as well. I have a vivid memory of using my last $10 in a HU and losing to a 1-outer, I slammed the ground and was yelling/whining in the middle of the night and woke my parents up. They said no more... ...Christmas day, a month and a half since my last deposit if I remember correctly. I asked my Dad if I could deposit and I thought he said yes, so I did, but it turned out he never said yes that day. Regardless I ran through that in 2 days. Crying basically the whole time I was playing. No deposits for me in the near future! I played freerolls and did well, but obv payouts are terrible...I was finally allowed at the end of Februrary to deposit (the minimum was now $50) again. I peaked at maybe $80 playing mainly low level SnGs. I lost that... The next time I deposited was actually a stupid scam by me. I used $100 of birthday money to deposit though they thought I used it for something else. I played only $5 SnGs this time reaching a peak level of $336. Slowly but surely it dwindled away. I was at $175 after running horribly and in amidst my rage I decided to withdraw that $175, I did but told them to cancel it later that day. I had $225 a week later or so, and withdrew (for the first time ever) $75. My last $150 went quick as I mainly tilted it off in higher level HU SnGs than I couldnt afford. So I pocketed $75 from $100 that was $300 and change at one point... This was all extremely upsetting becaue as a young kid I had visions of getting rich quick and helping my family out (my Dad was layed off for two years and we are still experiencing financial problems because of it.) This is what upset me most. I felt like I left my family down, but they do not know this. Enter UBs cashier center. 6 weeks later it turns out the batch of checks mine was in had been botched up. I was eventually given $20 free because of the extreme delay from UB. My Dad had still said no poker but figured I might as well use the $20 because it was doing no good sitting in there. I played $1 SnGs with that money and went from $20 to $26 to $13 and a week later after many tantrums I was down to $5. I played a HU match for $5 and had $10 to work off of. I teeter tottered around $10-30 for a week or so. Once I had it going (I thought) at $58 I dropped down to $15 or so. Then I worked my way back up and eclipsed $100 then $200. I took out $50 once I reached $210 and took out $50 once more once hitting $210. I went nowhere for awhile with SnGs so once I was down to $45 I played some cash games which I had previously been horrible at. I somehow did well and ran my roll up to $100 or so in a few days playing $10 NL. Then I won a tourney for $150. My roll was $233. I took out $125 and built the rest up to $365 through tourneys and cash games. I moved up to 25NL for a few sessions and ran horribly. I ran in circles for a few days. Then I lost $125 and thougt the world was over. Down to $200 I played a $100 HU SnG...and lost. I then had $110. I deposited $20 to activate an Epassporte account and had $131 today. After various beats in tourneys and SnGs today I am now at $52... Here are my serious questions: I have $52, do I withdraw that and just take a break till I get $60 for rakeback in 2 weeks? Do I quit forever because I can not handle it? Play 10NL with $5 BIs like I had done previously? Withdraw the money and rakeback money and get new video game system instead of Poker? One last thing. I have nothing to do besides tennis, house work and a job 1 or 2 days a week (which is boring as hell.) I do not like hanging out with the kids I do AT school OUTSIDE of school because I do not like drugs/alcohol because again I would feel like I let my parents down. Keep my boredom in mind, because that is what helped lead me to my current state. Thanks all... [/ QUOTE ] You have an emotional bankroll. I feel what you are trying to do with helping your family, but the emotion tied to your bankroll is no good. You also try to nickle and dime it way to hard, which is what a lot of people do including me, but the bankroll doesn't seem to be there for what you want to play. I'd say give the SNG a rest and work with the .25/50 NL or lower and just try to grind it out. However, it takes a minute to get rolled for that. Stop using b-day money for gambling on internet. Go buy yourself some nice clothes, weed, and a bottle of liquor and go get some ass. I was happy to win a grand on my bday from poker and didn't take out one dime b/c I need to build up this roll and nickle and diming it here and there ain't worth it. I agree you should also get a job too help your family out. They won't complain about you playing poker too if you are getting honest money.
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#7
08-01-2007, 01:59 PM
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Re: Need Some Actual Advice Here
RELAX BRO!!! Its not the end of the world. Seriously, read some poker books w/the money. Save your money from your job for the summer. Maybe set aside a little bit each check. Wait to you have a workable bankroll. Only then deposit and FOLLLOW BR MGMNT.
The swings not including playing too big sounds like you still have some learning to do. As do most of us. Study, study, study if poker is that intriging to you. Anyway. GL man! Don't put so much pressure on yourself.
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#8
08-01-2007, 02:57 PM
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Re: Need Some Actual Advice Here
Guys, I have read books and have what I think is a tight grasp on the game. Today I busted in tourneys (big ones) with 20 left by losing 4 coinflips, 3 in a row on 1 and 1 in the other. I played some SnGs today and made $50 after all tourney and BI fees. I am at $101. If I keep playing relaxed and have SOME things go my way I should be back up in no time. It's not my game itself that needs work, it is my BR management. Thanks for all the replies.
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#9
08-01-2007, 03:02 PM
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Re: Need Some Actual Advice Here
For those claiming that alcohol/drugs are the solution, did you miss where I said I don't wanna get involved in that stuff? Everyone at school does it, but it would be terrible for me with my addctive personality and I would feel guilty. Kids at my school actually got me into poker after a few home games. They lost interest as mine grew, they would rather do drugs than play poker or anything. ANYTHING they do involves drinking/smoking at some point...Sad, really.
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#10
08-01-2007, 03:41 PM
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Re: Need Some Actual Advice Here
you are having a go at the "druggies and alcoholics" but you openly admit you have an addictive personality.
You continuously go bust by playing like a fool or above your bankroll. You really need to look at yourself, you could find yourself blowing away all your money and ending up with an addiction. I highlight this by "They would rather do drugs than play poker". I used to do a lot of drugs at school and it was a social thing that me and my friends went through, yet they are socialising and you are sitting in front of a computer. It seems you could easily wake up with a problem and looking at the guys who were druggies who grew out of the phase and made something of their lives. Give poker a 2 month break and get out and socialise.
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