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Old 11-30-2007, 12:37 PM
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Is there documentation for 1,000,000+ slaughtered after we left?
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Old 11-30-2007, 12:41 PM
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Is there documentation for 1,000,000+ slaughtered after we left?

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Theres not much documentation on the Vietnam side, but the Khmer Rouge were pretty terrible, and there rise to power was correlated with us leaving.
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Old 11-30-2007, 12:51 PM
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Is there documentation for 1,000,000+ slaughtered after we left?

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Theres not much documentation on the Vietnam side, but the Khmer Rouge were pretty terrible, and there rise to power was correlated with us bombing the crap out of their country in a secret war which destroyed any semblence of order.

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Old 11-30-2007, 01:04 PM
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Is there documentation for 1,000,000+ slaughtered after we left?

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Theres not much documentation on the Vietnam side, but the Khmer Rouge were pretty terrible, and there rise to power was correlated with us bombing the crap out of their country in a secret war which destroyed any semblence of order.

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That definitely is part of the equation that led to the rise of the Khmer Rouge, but its not like Viet Cong weren't in Cambodia or anything. To say that the bombing was the only factor in the rise of the Khmer Rouge is either trollish or ignorant. The viet cong were in Cambodia before and after the bombings and cambodia wasn't exactly stable before that either.
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Old 11-30-2007, 02:46 PM
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None of this, however, answers my question, though, about documentation of the "bloodbath" that occurred in Vietnam after we left.
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Old 11-30-2007, 02:57 PM
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vietnam - its not well documented, it did happen

the Khmer rouge came to power through the help of the viet cong, other factors did play, but the support of the viet cong tipped the scales. Us leaving the SV to the viet cong allowed the viet cong to increase there influence in cambodia...
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Old 11-30-2007, 03:32 PM
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None of this, however, answers my question, though, about documentation of the "bloodbath" that occurred in Vietnam after we left.

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lines 637 deal with post withdrawal democide in Vietnam and of Vietnamese outside of Vietnam

The chart is well documented with footnotes to sources.

The total domestic deaths from 1975-1987 are summarized on line 762

129,000 493,000 1,571,000 are the low mid and high estimates

the total foreign and domestic deaths during that period from line 764 :

346,000 1,040,000 2,438,000.


This is a description of the methodology and summary of the findings for all periods
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Old 11-30-2007, 12:58 PM
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I believe the indigenous death toll is estimated at 5 to 6 million by the us army.
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Old 11-30-2007, 01:11 PM
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Is there documentation for 1,000,000+ slaughtered after we left?

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Theres not much documentation on the Vietnam side, but the Khmer Rouge were pretty terrible, and there rise to power was correlated with us leaving.

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Wow.
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Old 11-30-2007, 01:21 PM
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Is there documentation for 1,000,000+ slaughtered after we left?

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Theres not much documentation on the Vietnam side, but the Khmer Rouge were pretty terrible, and there rise to power was correlated with us leaving.

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Wow.

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