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Old 11-26-2007, 08:19 PM
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i think all leagues should have a championship game.... occasionally works the opposite way. where a team would want the extra tough game to move up. and everyone wants to play the best (i think)..... i was pulling for kansas but it was somewhat illusionary their success.
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Old 11-26-2007, 09:50 PM
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Kansas shouldn't get in, because of many reasons. They didn't prove they were the best team in their conference on the field and no one really considers them to be. Out of the four top teams in their conference, they were 0-1 against the only one they played. They were also 0-1 against Sagarin's Top 40 teams.

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With approximately six thousand BCS bowl spots this year, none of those reasons really disqualifies a team for a BCS spot.

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I was talking about the NC.
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Old 11-26-2007, 10:43 PM
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If we assume the following favorites win their last game:
USC (-19.5 over UCLA)
West Virginia (-28 over Pitt)
Hawaii (-13.5 over Washington)
Virginia Tech (-4.5 over BC)
LSU (-8 over Tennessee)
Oklahoma (-3 over Missouri)

Then my projections for the BCS are:
NCG: West Virginia vs. Ohio State
Orange: Virginia Tech vs. Kansas
Fiesta: Oklahoma vs. Arizona State
Rose: USC vs. Georgia
Sugar: LSU vs. Hawaii

I think that if it comes down to #3 Georgia or #just snuck into the top 14 Illinois, the Rose Bowl will take the better game over Pac Ten/Big Ten... but I could be wrong. Also, Orange could take Missou over Kansas, tough decision there.
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Old 11-26-2007, 10:48 PM
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I think that if it comes down to #3 Georgia or #just snuck into the top 14 Illinois

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In your scenario, Georgia should end up #3, which means they get an automatic bid and have to go somewhere.
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Old 11-26-2007, 11:05 PM
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They have to go somewhere, as does Hawaii (who would be an auto-bid) as a top 12 mid-major. This doesn't *force* the Rose Bowl to take either of them, though, because there are still three slots left for other bowls to put them in. The Pac Ten could still take Illinois if they want. I don't think they would choose to do so though.
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Old 11-26-2007, 11:31 PM
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It looks like the only difference in our lists is you have OU winning and we switch Kansas and Georgia. The reason I think Georgia won't go to the Rose Bowl is that the Rose Bowl has first pick if OSU plays the NC game and I think Kansas is more attractive: Kansas has a higher national profile and my wild guess is that they travel better.
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Old 11-26-2007, 11:50 PM
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I'm pretty sure the Rose Bowl would rather have USC-Georgia (two teams that many people believe are the two best teams in the country at this moment) than USC-Kansas. Kansas has no historical profile, and while they have one fewer losses than Georgia a lot of people feel that they are a fraud.

I see almost no chance of USC-Kansas. The Rose Bowl takes either Georgia (for the "best" matchup) or Illinois (for Pac Ten vs. Big Ten). By my estimation Georgia is more likely, but I think it's about 60/40. The Rose Bowl really does like that whole "history" thing...
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Old 11-27-2007, 03:55 AM
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FWIW, here's the BCS predictions from collegebcs.com

NC: OSU v. WVU
Orange: Miami v. Georgia
Fiesta: Oklahoma v. Kansas
Rose: USC v. Illinois
Sugar: LSU v. Hawaii

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I think 3 loss Illinois who lost to Missou, Iowa and Michigan getting an at large over a two loss ASU who lost to Oregon and USC would be wrong.

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It would be wrong. But I also believe that the Rose Bowl wants to preserve the Big Ten/Pac 10 matchup. Illinois is second in the conference, so they would get the bid.

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Illinois is NOT 2nd in the conference. Michigan is. However, Michigan isn't BCS bowl eligible, and Illinois is.

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Sorry, they are T-2nd. There is no tiebreaker. Not sure why people have such a hard time understanding it.
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Old 11-27-2007, 04:18 AM
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didnt Tennessee win the NC in 98 w/o winning the SEC?
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Old 11-27-2007, 04:20 AM
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IIRC they were undefeated that year.
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