WTF ZeeJustin

[Diamond Lie]

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The fact that he merely calls the flop kinda makes me think ZJ was trying to extract value from perhaps a pocket pair below 8's. I don't see how else you could justify a call there.

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You can't "extract value" from a call. LOL.

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what about if its an aggressive call?

[DCJ311]

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I dont even call here if I think my opponent is bluffing

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you have to play to win. if you think hes bluffing you have to make the call

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http://youtube.com/watch?v=IMk5sMHj58I

[ix.spider.uk]

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The fact that he merely calls the flop kinda makes me think ZJ was trying to extract value from perhaps a pocket pair below 8's. I don't see how else you could justify a call there.

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You can't "extract value" from a call. LOL.

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when I say 'extract value' I mean take advantage of the fact that your opponent in that instance would be effectively dead. You would be calling to take advantage of your opponent trying to bluff you -say by shoving the turn- or value calling raising you on a later street.

[Ship Ship McGipp]

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. 5 minutes in the tank and calls with pair of 8's why dont you just admit it's a bad call...

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no such thing as a bad call. YOU GET TO SEE THEIR [censored] CARDS

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[apefish]

Random thought random thought random thought random thought durrr durrr durr durrr durrr zomg zomg z0mg meow chow.

Sometimes people are wrong.

When they happen to be great mtt players holy [censored] do we over-react.

[MikeyPatriot]

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when I say 'extract value' I mean take advantage of the fact that your opponent in that instance would be effectively dead. You would be calling to take advantage of your opponent trying to bluff you -say by shoving the turn- or value calling raising you on a later street.

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You mean bluff-catching, which is what ZJ is obv trying to do? Any non-set PP shoving here is a bluff.

[cosimaninja]

OMFG STOP DISCUSSING STRAT IN NVG. SOME OF THE TARDS IN THIS THREAD ARE THE REASON I HAVE TO TAKE MONTH LONG BREAKS FROM 2+2 TO TRY AND RECOVER MY LOST INTELLIGENCE FROM READING "TARDS ATTEMPT STRAT" IN NVG.

[flyingmoose]

I would have folded in that spot. I guess that's pretty irrefutable proof that I'm better than ZeeJustin

[overthaline]

Maybe because villain is bad.

With blinds at 1.5/3k

Mike Vela raises to 20,000 on the button. The big blind reraises to 50,000 and Vela reraises to 100,000. The big blind moves all in and Vela calls the additional 52,000. The big blind shows AK and Vela turns over J-10. The board comes J-8-3-5-Q and Vela doubles up.

[Kevin Browne]

value betting worse than a paire of 8's here? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]