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View Poll Results: If you have changed your beliefs, has your profession had anything to do with it?
YES 2 8.00%
NO 18 72.00%
I HAVE NOT CHANGED MY BELIEFS 5 20.00%
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Old 11-05-2007, 09:06 PM
XXXNoahXXX XXXNoahXXX is offline
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I don't really care whose fault it is when something is not right in a restaurant. If the overall package is great, a place where I would LOVE to come back -- that means food, service and stmosphere -- then I will gladly leave big tips, up to equal to the meal depending on how much I have on me. But I don't tip for merely decent service, which is 99% of places, so I almost never tip.

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Old 11-05-2007, 09:08 PM
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as i said, my mom is a waitress. she works weekends at a family restauraunt. she makes $2.15 per hour.

People do realize waitstaff is exempt from minimum wage right?
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Old 11-05-2007, 09:10 PM
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as i said, my mom is a waitress. she works weekends at a family restauraunt. she makes $2.15 per hour.

People do realize waitstaff is exempt from minimum wage right?

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cue AC hijack.

don't do it people, you'll get banned.
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Old 11-05-2007, 09:13 PM
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I've never stiffed in a restaurant, but I've given really small tips (like 5%) in situations like the one you described where the guy just disappeared for like 15 minutes when we were trying to pay the check and get out of there. That [censored] is infuriating.

Only time I ever recall stiffing anyone was a cabbie in AC who drove me from the Borgata to the Taj, meter was like $10.50 and I had $9 in ones and all the rest of my money in $20s and $100s. I hand the guy a $20, he says he doesn't have any change (lol), I take the 20 back, give him the $9 and leave. I felt a little bad, but wtf, I'm not tipping you $9.50 for a 5-minute cab ride because you're either lying about having change or too dumb to carry it.

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Aren't cabbies supposed to carry a certain amount of change by law?

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Old 11-05-2007, 09:14 PM
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I don't really care whose fault it is when something is not right in a restaurant. If the overall package is great, a place where I would LOVE to come back -- that means food, service and stmosphere -- then I will gladly leave big tips, up to equal to the meal depending on how much I have on me. But I don't tip for merely decent service, which is 99% of places, so I almost never tip.

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cue eight million Reservoir Dog pics/gimmick accounts.

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ask and you shall receive
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Old 11-05-2007, 09:14 PM
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FWIW I have found that the quality of service I receive has gotten better as I've gotten older.

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Agree. My tolerance for poor service has shrunk to near zero. There are several poker dealers that will never get a tip and I'm a one casino man who logs a lot of hours. Food service, no biggie, I just won't ever go back.

When it comes to consumer f-ups I know exactly which buttons to push, just how much noise to make and what authority to appeal to. I get my way most all the time, public sphere excluded. No leverage is possible with public employees unless you are connected.

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I wasn't really referring to knowing how to "play the game" better (even though that is very true), I meant that even though I act the same, I get better service.
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Old 11-05-2007, 09:15 PM
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that chick from the office is so [censored] smokin
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Old 11-05-2007, 09:15 PM
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cue AC hijack.
don't do it people, you'll get banned.

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I ask this in all seriousness: What is an AC hijack?
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Old 11-05-2007, 09:16 PM
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if you have to ask you are better off not knowing
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Old 11-05-2007, 09:24 PM
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See it doesn't matter whether it's the waiter's fault or not. The waitstaff is the front line of customer server. As such they are the primary earner and distributor of tips to the remaining restaurant staff. What this means is that a good waiter will act as an enforcer to make sure the other staff stays on the ball. Like in the Miyake's example, a real waiter would have been like "YO GET BACK TO WORK YOU LAZY MOTHER EFFER!!" to the cashier. This enforcer behavior is why line cooks and wait staff hate each other like NASCAR fans of Dale Earnhardt Jr. and Jeff Gordon hate each other. Now granted, since Miyake's is cheap as dirt, I lowered my expectations a little bit. But the cashier pulling this "do you need singles?" crap was the straw that broke the back. Like he knew he effed up but still wanted to guilt trip me in to leaving a tip. The proper move is to just do what every bartender does and give 5 ones in change no matter what.
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