JJ pre flop situation in 100r vs raise/reraise in EP

[Bond18]

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t1000 (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB (t30980)
BB (t43950)
UTG (t26210)
UTG+1 (t23952)
MP1 (t21924)
Hero (t16220)
CO (t53608)
Button (t21751)

Hero is MP2 with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], blinds 500/1000

Preflop: UTG raises to 3000, 1 fold, MP1 moves all in for 21924, hero?

[KneeCo]

No reads? I call you got some dead money and I don't see why he can't have at least 99+/AQ+ (and I think that's a little tight on the pp side) against which you have the slightly happy side of a flop.

[Bond18]

IMO its a shove but i'd drop TT.

[djk123]

I def shove here.

[mikeJ]

Looks like a shove to me

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 53.465% 52.26% 01.20% 257729730 5931147.00 { TT+, 9d9h, 9d9s, 9h9s, AQs+, AKo }
Hand 1: 46.535% 45.33% 01.20% 223551528 5931147.00 { JJ }

[freeucm]

Question, if the 2nd guy flat calls.

We hold 99 1010 aq would we try and squeeze, would this be the spot to take?

[Bakes]

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Looks like a shove to me

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 53.465% 52.26% 01.20% 257729730 5931147.00 { TT+, 9d9h, 9d9s, 9h9s, AQs+, AKo }
Hand 1: 46.535% 45.33% 01.20% 223551528 5931147.00 { JJ }

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i mean, you have to consider UTG at least right?

[mikeJ]

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Looks like a shove to me

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 53.465% 52.26% 01.20% 257729730 5931147.00 { TT+, 9d9h, 9d9s, 9h9s, AQs+, AKo }
Hand 1: 46.535% 45.33% 01.20% 223551528 5931147.00 { JJ }

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i mean, you have to consider UTG at least right?

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You do, what I meant by the above post was that, 1/2 combos of 99/TT+/AK/AQs is the tightest possible range for shover and ur still 47/53, there's dead money in pot, I just don't think UTG will show up w/ big hand enough to make this -cEV.

Also, it's 8 handed.

[NoahSD]

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Looks like a shove to me

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 53.465% 52.26% 01.20% 257729730 5931147.00 { TT+, 9d9h, 9d9s, 9h9s, AQs+, AKo }
Hand 1: 46.535% 45.33% 01.20% 223551528 5931147.00 { JJ }

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i mean, you have to consider UTG at least right?

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Yes. Fold.

[timex]

Fold this and I'm not sure its exremely close.