$60 - BVB - If I wanted to fold all day I'd work in a doily factory

[suzzer99]

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UTG (t2640)
UTG+1 (t4415)
CO (t1250)
Button (t975)
SB (t2900)
Hero (t1320)

Preflop: Hero is in BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, SB calls t75, Hero?

Villain is pretty much a massive calling station. Microbet's standard line here is to check and try to stack him + the fact he very well might not be able to bring himself to fold preflop. What's the fun of poker if you have to fold all the time?

[pineapple888]

Huh? Who's folding? Check and see a flop, of course.

[suzzer99]

I'm making a joke about villain being a calling station. Sorry that wasn't real clear. My standard line is to push here, unless I have a read villain is tricky and put a trap as a significant possibility. I have no such read on this villain. Is that a leak?

[pineapple888]

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I'm making a joke about villain being a calling station. Sorry that wasn't real clear. My standard line is to push here, unless I have a read villain is tricky and put a trap as a significant possibility. I have no such read on this villain. Is that a leak?

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Are you saying villain is a calling station? Then I'd think a push here would be a pretty big leak. You want to value bet a calling station when you hit the flop, not try and shove him around preflop with a hand that's about as solid as... oh, I don't know... a doily, I guess.

[gumpzilla]

I tend to agree with pineapple. Against this opponent, you'll get called with a wider range than you want PF, but have a better chance than usual of hurting him bad when you do make a decent hand postflop. Combined, I think checking is quite a bit better here. Pushing is probably all right, and against an opponent who would be betting often postflop is probably superior.

[supercomputer]

I'd check.

A doily wouldn't be folded at the factory anyway. They're sold flat and stuck together.

[suzzer99]

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I'd check.

A doily wouldn't be folded at the factory anyway. They're sold flat and stuck together.

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I was wondering if someone was going to catch that. I really just wanted to get 'doily' into a subject header somehow.


Reminds me of possibly my all time favorite sitcom line. Chris Elliott in Get a Life, trying to impress a date by pretending he owns the house he's watching for an old lady:

Date: "So this is your place? Why are there doilies all over the couches?"

Elliot: "Oh these? These are action doilies... for men." (he flings one across the room.)


Hard to say why, but that just kills me, like a lot of other stuff on that show.

[KingDan]

I push.

[supercomputer]

I caught your other one too about the Creature's Ghost. That was Mr. Show right?

[microbet]

OP was pretty much right on, but I just want to clarify that I didn't say it was a 'standard line' or anything. I knew villian was very loose when I advised checking, partially because I don't trust him to fold many hands to a push and partially because I feel the implied odds are quite good if you hit something against him.