$60 - AKo - The Return of the Creature's Ghost in 3D

[UMTerp]

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But if he shows AT, you have 3 less outs and if he shows a set, you need runner runner. You are not 30% to win against a range of A5, AT, 55, and TT I'd guess.

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You're correct, though I bet if you make the range [AT, A5, 55, TT, AK, AQ], and even if you weigh the AQ by 0.5 or something, the call becomes profitable again. "Horrible" was probably a bad choice of words for folding. I think it's a call, albeit a close one, against an unknown $60 opponent. I do think some of the unthinking responses in this thread are "horrible" though.

[curtains]

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You got AK, you hit an A or a K on the flop, you go broke with it. It's that simple.


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Most of the time this is true, but this is a clear cut case where it isn't, I'm sorry. NOBODY plays a hand worse than 2 pair this way on such a drawless board.

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uhh if by nobody you mean 10 people at my tables in the last week, then yes, you are correct.

[curtains]

btw quick note [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] I didn't realize that UTG was the reraiser. I thought it was MP1. Ummm ...hmmmmmm.......Ill stop talking now

[supercomputer]

Playing devil's advocate, it's far more likely for villain to fold UTG w/ A5 than the others, results notwithstanding.

[supercomputer]

Quick hand from a $109 last week to illustrate why I lean toward calling here:

Hero limps for $30 with 99.
MP raises to $100.
SB calls, BB calls, hero calls.
Flop: J 9 6 with 2 hearts.
Hero checks. MP bets 150. SB calls. BB calls. Hero raises to 500. MP folds. SB folds. BB raises to 1100 (all-in). Hero calls 600.
BB shows 44.

WTF?

You can't just fold to these randoms b/c they "can only have a hand that beats you" because of their betting pattern.

[suzzer99]

Oh yeah, I have quite a few of those too. Especially in the first orbit or 2. If there's a maniac-donk he hasn't flamed out yet, and a lot of others subscribe to the "double-up-early-or-go-home" strategy.

After that they tend to calm down a bit.

[curtains]

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Quick hand from a $109 last week to illustrate why I lean toward calling here:

Hero limps for $30 with 99.
MP raises to $100.
SB calls, BB calls, hero calls.
Flop: J 9 6 with 2 hearts.
Hero checks. MP bets 150. SB calls. BB calls. Hero raises to 500. MP folds. SB folds. BB raises to 1100 (all-in). Hero calls 600.
BB shows 44.

WTF?

You can't just fold to these randoms b/c they "can only have a hand that beats you" because of their betting pattern.

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lol I refuse to believe anyone has ever played like that above the $60 limit, cmon man.

[glass_onion]

lets replay it.

Preflop raise. A hits. He bets out. Who plays Ax this way?!? Aq AJ AT everybody. JJ is a bit of a stretch, given flop bet, but if no one played that way I wouldn't win so much money.

[durron597]

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lets replay it.

Preflop raise. A hits. He bets out. Who plays Ax this way?!? Aq AJ AT everybody. JJ is a bit of a stretch, given flop bet, but if no one played that way I wouldn't win so much money.

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He didn't bet out, he check-3bet 2 people

[supercomputer]

LOL I swear!

Don't underestimate the "double-up-early-or-go-home" strategy!!!