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Re: $60 - AKo - The Return of the Creature\'s Ghost in 3D
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But if he shows AT, you have 3 less outs and if he shows a set, you need runner runner. You are not 30% to win against a range of A5, AT, 55, and TT I'd guess. [/ QUOTE ] You're correct, though I bet if you make the range [AT, A5, 55, TT, AK, AQ], and even if you weigh the AQ by 0.5 or something, the call becomes profitable again. "Horrible" was probably a bad choice of words for folding. I think it's a call, albeit a close one, against an unknown $60 opponent. I do think some of the unthinking responses in this thread are "horrible" though. |
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Re: $60 - AKo - The Return of the Creature\'s Ghost in 3D
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[ QUOTE ] You got AK, you hit an A or a K on the flop, you go broke with it. It's that simple. [/ QUOTE ] Most of the time this is true, but this is a clear cut case where it isn't, I'm sorry. NOBODY plays a hand worse than 2 pair this way on such a drawless board. [/ QUOTE ] uhh if by nobody you mean 10 people at my tables in the last week, then yes, you are correct. |
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Re: $60 - AKo - The Return of the Creature\'s Ghost in 3D
btw quick note [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] I didn't realize that UTG was the reraiser. I thought it was MP1. Ummm ...hmmmmmm.......Ill stop talking now
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Re: $60 - AKo - The Return of the Creature\'s Ghost in 3D
Playing devil's advocate, it's far more likely for villain to fold UTG w/ A5 than the others, results notwithstanding.
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Re: $60 - AKo - The Return of the Creature\'s Ghost in 3D
Quick hand from a $109 last week to illustrate why I lean toward calling here:
Hero limps for $30 with 99. MP raises to $100. SB calls, BB calls, hero calls. Flop: J 9 6 with 2 hearts. Hero checks. MP bets 150. SB calls. BB calls. Hero raises to 500. MP folds. SB folds. BB raises to 1100 (all-in). Hero calls 600. BB shows 44. WTF? You can't just fold to these randoms b/c they "can only have a hand that beats you" because of their betting pattern. |
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Re: $60 - AKo - The Return of the Creature\'s Ghost in 3D
Oh yeah, I have quite a few of those too. Especially in the first orbit or 2. If there's a maniac-donk he hasn't flamed out yet, and a lot of others subscribe to the "double-up-early-or-go-home" strategy.
After that they tend to calm down a bit. |
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Re: $60 - AKo - The Return of the Creature\'s Ghost in 3D
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Quick hand from a $109 last week to illustrate why I lean toward calling here: Hero limps for $30 with 99. MP raises to $100. SB calls, BB calls, hero calls. Flop: J 9 6 with 2 hearts. Hero checks. MP bets 150. SB calls. BB calls. Hero raises to 500. MP folds. SB folds. BB raises to 1100 (all-in). Hero calls 600. BB shows 44. WTF? You can't just fold to these randoms b/c they "can only have a hand that beats you" because of their betting pattern. [/ QUOTE ] lol I refuse to believe anyone has ever played like that above the $60 limit, cmon man. |
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Re: $60 - AKo - The Return of the Creature\'s Ghost in 3D
lets replay it.
Preflop raise. A hits. He bets out. Who plays Ax this way?!? Aq AJ AT everybody. JJ is a bit of a stretch, given flop bet, but if no one played that way I wouldn't win so much money. |
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lets replay it. Preflop raise. A hits. He bets out. Who plays Ax this way?!? Aq AJ AT everybody. JJ is a bit of a stretch, given flop bet, but if no one played that way I wouldn't win so much money. [/ QUOTE ] He didn't bet out, he check-3bet 2 people |
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Re: $60 - AKo - The Return of the Creature\'s Ghost in 3D
LOL I swear!
Don't underestimate the "double-up-early-or-go-home" strategy!!! |
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