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#32
09-19-2007, 06:36 PM
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Re: OK
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] with A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] If you have A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] are you raising the river? [/ QUOTE ] i really don't know. [/ QUOTE ] Or at least does Freddy expect you to raise the Q - 9 of hearts? If he does I think you have a pretty straight forward 4 bet. 
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#33
09-19-2007, 06:40 PM
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Re: OK
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Does he really open raise from EP w/5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]? I 4 bet then call. I think he has KQ with K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. [/ QUOTE ] i've opened in EP with 53s a lot more times than i've bet/3bet a K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] in this kind of spot. [/ QUOTE ] really? I've bet/3-bet with Kh here against quite a few online lags. [/ QUOTE ] did you call a 4bet? [/ QUOTE ] probably [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img], but you still make a good point.
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#34
09-19-2007, 06:41 PM
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Re: OK
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] with A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] If you have A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] are you raising the river? [/ QUOTE ] i really don't know. [/ QUOTE ] Or at least does Freddy expect you to raise the Q - 9 of hearts? If he does I think you have a pretty straight forward 4 bet. [/ QUOTE ] why are you 4betting when he can likely never call? the guy is a LAG, not a retard.
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#35
09-19-2007, 07:46 PM
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Re: OK
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] with A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] If you have A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] are you raising the river? [/ QUOTE ] i really don't know. [/ QUOTE ] Or at least does Freddy expect you to raise the Q - 9 of hearts? If he does I think you have a pretty straight forward 4 bet. [/ QUOTE ] why are you 4betting when he can likely never call? the guy is a LAG, not a retard. [/ QUOTE ] I'm coming from an high limit online background where people aren't folding the K here. If you believe that he will fold the K then it's an easy call, if he's not folding then it's an easy 3 bet plain and simple. Only you can make that decision based on dynamics of the game or what not. It's a pretty straight forward situation really. My original point is just if freddy expects you to raise Q-9 of hearts that this is more than likely the K of hearts hence cap. If freddy knows you will only raise the river with the A of hearts it's an easy call.
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#36
09-19-2007, 08:18 PM
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Re: OK
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] with A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] If you have A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] are you raising the river? [/ QUOTE ] i really don't know. [/ QUOTE ] Or at least does Freddy expect you to raise the Q - 9 of hearts? If he does I think you have a pretty straight forward 4 bet. [/ QUOTE ] why are you 4betting when he can likely never call? the guy is a LAG, not a retard. [/ QUOTE ] I'm coming from an high limit online background where people aren't folding the K here. If you believe that he will fold the K then it's an easy call, if he's not folding then it's an easy 3 bet plain and simple. Only you can make that decision based on dynamics of the game or what not. It's a pretty straight forward situation really. My original point is just if freddy expects you to raise Q-9 of hearts that this is more than likely the K of hearts hence cap. If freddy knows you will only raise the river with the A of hearts it's an easy call. [/ QUOTE ] in most high limit online games, is it not a 4bet cap? thus, there is no fear of getting 5balled, but that is a real fear here.
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#37
09-20-2007, 10:43 AM
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Re: OK
Freddy will never call a reraise and I have played 500-1000 hours with him.
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#38
09-20-2007, 10:24 PM
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Re: OK
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Freddy will never call a reraise and I have played 500-1000 hours with him. [/ QUOTE ] And the way he runs against you, you would call the 3rd bet and hold your hand over the muck.
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#39
09-21-2007, 01:51 AM
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Re: OK
i must be amongst the fish that see more value in raising --> value gained raising (villain folds + villain calls w/worse) > value gained calling (hero wins maj of time, loses v rarely) + value lost raising (hero has to call a 5 bet when beat)
if this even makes sense btw would the ppl who advocate raise, fold to 5 actually fold this in practice?
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