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Old 11-10-2007, 11:52 PM
ddubois ddubois is offline
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Default Stupid preflop question, 330bb deep

Villain stacked me for 125bb a couple hours earlier when he 3bet 98o in position against my 77, and the flop came 7TJ. Hurray for FullTilt.

I have no idea what to do here. It seems like there's no amount I can bet that prevents him from set-mining. What's my goal? 4-bet an amount that induces a re-raise? Call and try to get to showdown cheap OOP unimproved? (bleh!) Bomb huge so he can't set mine, but it's super obvious what I have? Rep a misclick?

Full Tilt Poker, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

DrGiggy (BTN): $1,330.50
Potomophobia (SB): $427.80
KimKJ (BB): $142
barelyl3gal (UTG): $416
Hero (MP): $1,681.50
jballer88 (CO): $475

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (MP)
barelyl3gal folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $14</font>, jballer88 folds, <font color="red">DrGiggy raises to $48</font>, 2 folds, Hero ???
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Old 11-10-2007, 11:56 PM
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Default Re: Stupid preflop question, 330bb deep

raise to 150
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Old 11-10-2007, 11:58 PM
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Default Re: Stupid preflop question, 330bb deep

Raise to $200.
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Old 11-11-2007, 12:05 AM
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Raise to $200.

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Also I should mention that when you're 4bet bluffing, you should be raising to this same size when you're this deep.
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Old 11-10-2007, 11:59 PM
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Default Re: Stupid preflop question, 330bb deep

4bet an amount that both induces 5bet bluffs and doesnt reveal ur hand (raise to 135?). If u think raising bigger gives him the odds anyways and gives away ur hand - seems like betting smaller is the right play. An insta shove could be fun also if u think it could come off as either a misclick or a frustrated play with jacks+ or ak (therefore get looked up by queens, kings and sometimes ak).
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Old 11-11-2007, 12:01 AM
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Default Re: Stupid preflop question, 330bb deep

Anything around 160 should be fine. He can't really set mine all that profitably even if you stack off every time.
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Old 11-11-2007, 06:05 PM
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Anything around 160 should be fine. He can't really set mine all that profitably even if you stack off every time.

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Old 11-11-2007, 12:03 AM
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4bet an amount that both induces 5bet bluffs and doesnt reveal ur hand (raise to 135?). If u think raising bigger gives him the odds anyways and gives away ur hand - seems like betting smaller is the right play. An insta shove could be fun also if u think it could come off as either a misclick or a frustrated play with jacks+ or ak (therefore get looked up by queens, kings and sometimes ak).

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instashove.... from 12 to 330bb, maybe at 0.01/0.02
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Old 11-11-2007, 12:12 AM
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I'd call unless I had 4 betting history and knew he didn't like to give up/could predict his preflop reactions with most of his holdings.
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Old 11-11-2007, 12:57 PM
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Default Re: Stupid preflop question, 330bb deep

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4bet an amount that both induces 5bet bluffs and doesnt reveal ur hand (raise to 135?). If u think raising bigger gives him the odds anyways and gives away ur hand - seems like betting smaller is the right play. An insta shove could be fun also if u think it could come off as either a misclick or a frustrated play with jacks+ or ak (therefore get looked up by queens, kings and sometimes ak).

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lol at AK calling this deep
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