2Barrel then TPTK, valuetown???

[disciple]

Don't have much read on villian. seems kind of loose and passive. Initial preflop raise is huge, maybe just fold? Didn't want to since I had position and a good hand [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]. Comments on all streets please. oh, my image is quite lag.

Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: tag ( $ 200 USD )
Seat 4: hero ( $ 360.10 USD )
Seat 3: seat3 ( $ 102.38 USD )
Seat 2: villian ( $ 259.60 USD )
Seat 5: seat5 ( $ 82.75 USD )
Seat 6: seat6 ( $ 198 USD )
seat6 posts small blind [$ 1 USD].
tag posts big blind [$ 2 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ Qc Ad ]
villian raises [$ 20 USD]
seat3 folds.
hero calls [$ 20 USD]
seat5 folds.
seat6 folds.
tag folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8h, 7c, 5s ]
villian checks.
hero bets [$ 32 USD]
villian calls [$ 32 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6d ]
villian checks.
hero bets [$ 80 USD]
villian calls [$ 80 USD]
** Dealing River ** [ Qs ]
villian checks.
hero.........

[GrandMelon]

I check behind here

[hamburgerHELMUTh]

I don't like a bet here, I am pretty sure you are beat.

[disciple]

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I don't like a bet here, I am pretty sure you are beat.



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Can't I get value from TT, JJ?

[Jay Riall]

Pf I'm not too sure about. I may just muck, but w/e. I would check the flop since I expect him to peel with AK a lot of the time tbh. Really hate the second barrel. I'd just check the river and hope he doesn't have Kings.

[Jay Riall]

Yes there may be a little value from TT-JJ, but thats it and there are a shitton of hands that play this way that have you beat. I wouldn't be suprised ifhe turned up with a set or KK+ tbh.

[disciple]

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Pf I'm not too sure about. I may just muck, but w/e. I would check the flop since I expect him to peel with AK a lot of the time tbh. Really hate the second barrel. I'd just check the river and hope he doesn't have Kings.

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Why do you hate the second barrel? My line is pretty consistent with a set, 2P, straight. well, maybe not 2P but I dont' think villian is that observant here.

[Jay Riall]

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Pf I'm not too sure about. I may just muck, but w/e. I would check the flop since I expect him to peel with AK a lot of the time tbh. Really hate the second barrel. I'd just check the river and hope he doesn't have Kings.

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Why do you hate the second barrel? My line is pretty consistent with a set, 2P, straight. well, maybe not 2P but I dont' think villian is that observant here.

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Because people are idiots (he looks like one due to pfr size) and you get called down by JJ here a lot.

[AMT]

ugh do not bet river, you have showdown value vs a bad player but you can so often be beat, he could be calling any bet you make and quite often with a hand that beats your TPTK. just check the river, or you turn your hand into a pure bluff.

[hamburgerHELMUTh]

Someone asked about getting value form TT-JJ.
Sorry I don't know how to quote yet.

I think its far more likely that you're already beat, and if he does have TT JJ, he's not calling 100% of rivers either. I think its better EV to check.