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Trips on Flop A kicker Called push- Too Aggressive?
Just checking to see what you guys think of calling the push here on the flop. I think here I was only a slight favorite despite the fact that one player had a made FH. Played right or too aggressive? I have been trying to play more aggressive lately because in the past I have been weak and folded when I was a marginal favorite at times. Is this call long term +EV?
Full Tilt Poker Pot Limit Omaha Ring game Blinds: $0.25/$0.50 9 players Converter Stack sizes: Janellebb7: $48 UTG+1: $45.95 MP1: $26.95 MP2: $61.60 MP3: $88.65 CO: $15.75 Button: $65.10 SB: $35.90 BB: $36.25 Pre-flop: (9 players) Janellebb7 is UTG with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Janellebb7 calls $0.5 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was $0.75)</font>, UTG+1 calls $0.5 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was $1.25)</font>, MP1 folds, MP2 calls $0.5 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was $1.75)</font>, MP3 calls $0.5 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was $2.25)</font>, CO folds, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $1</font>, SB folds, BB calls $0.5 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was $3.75)</font>, Janellebb7 calls $0.5 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was $4.25)</font>, UTG+1 calls $0.5 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was $4.75)</font>, MP2 calls $0.5 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was $5.25)</font>, MP3 calls $0.5 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was $5.75)</font>. Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($6.25, 6 players) BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Janellebb7 bets $6.5</font>, UTG+1 calls $6.5 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was $12.75)</font>, MP2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">MP3 raises to $32.5</font>, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Janellebb7 raises all-in $47</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 calls all-in $38.45</font>, MP3 calls $14.5 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was $124.2)</font>. Turn: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($145.2, 1 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $141.1, Sidepot 1: $4.1) River: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($145.2, 1 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $141.1, Sidepot 1: $4.1) Results: Final pot: $145.2 <font color="#ffffff">Janellebb7 showed 9s 6c Ac 3d</font> <font color="#ffffff">UTG+1 showed 8h 8s 7d 5s</font> <font color="#ffffff">MP3 showed 7c 5d Kc 9d</font> |
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Re: Trips on Flop A kicker Called push- Too Aggressive?
Fold this hand preflop. Stacking off on the flop is not great if you really think mp3 has fh. You have 9 outs assuming other villian has 9xxx.
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Re: Trips on Flop A kicker Called push- Too Aggressive?
fold pre flop like chucky said.
ugh, i'd prefer to have the ace and 2 over cards to the 8 on the board to comfortbly stack off. this line is usually the same hand as you or he already has you beat. tough spot........fold. if i have 2 overcards to the 8 on board with ace.........i stack off gladly. |
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Re: Trips on Flop A kicker Called push- Too Aggressive?
I would also like to know what is the general strategy on flop when having top trips on paired frop and A + 2 overcards in pocket? Is it wise to try to put all the chips in most of the time or try to catch a card on turn cheaply?
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Re: Trips on Flop A kicker Called push- Too Aggressive?
I'm asking this because I've had times when I raise pot on flop, other player calls and hits underfull on turn. And then I'm already too pot commited or just can't lay my hand down.
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Re: Trips on Flop A kicker Called push- Too Aggressive?
utg this is an easy fold preflop.
in general "i'd prefer to have the ace and 2 over cards to the 8 on the board to comfortbly stack off." is a good rule of thumb. but against some villians i'd strongly consider to just fold when i am faced with a lot of action. |
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Re: Trips on Flop A kicker Called push- Too Aggressive?
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You have 9 outs assuming other villian has 9xxx. [/ QUOTE ] you only have 9 outs if villain has exactly 88 with exactly one of your sidecards. |
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Re: Trips on Flop A kicker Called push- Too Aggressive?
I said other villian. The guy who called in between hero and raiser. I assume that the caller has 9xxx. Unless calling villian has 98xx, hero has 9 outs to fh.
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Re: Trips on Flop A kicker Called push- Too Aggressive?
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I said other villian. The guy who called in between hero and raiser. I assume that the caller has 9xxx. Unless calling villian has 98xx, hero has 9 outs to fh. [/ QUOTE ] you seem to be missing my point. |
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Re: Trips on Flop A kicker Called push- Too Aggressive?
No. I get your point. Max outs are 10. 88 may have Ace, but given position of villian I doubt 6 or 3 along with ace is in villian's hand. 8863 just isnt that likely. I guess you will see a886, but not a major part of 88xx range.
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