US Department of Justice forces people to buy Microsoft Windows

[Misfire]

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You're trying to tell me about the difference between a tomato and an apple while I am aware that one is a fruit and the other a vegetable.

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The tomato is a fruit.

[Felz]

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Oh, now there IS a difference? Which is it?

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There is a difference between private and public goods, never said otherwise.

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Perhaps you should define what you mean by "public goods"

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What every economist means by public goods - non-rivalry and non-excludability.
Do you constantly run around asking people what they mean by "weather", "bread", "car" or "hat"?

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LOL. Government cannot eliminate or reduce transaction costs. It simply shifts them, transfers them, and masks them.

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In fact they can.

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As for Coase, he himself explicitly recognized and pointed out cases of private production of so-called "public" goods.

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If you read my previous post I'm aware of those cases. It's like pointing out that there are theoretical cases in which the government can work efficiently and create a first best world even the market mechanism couldn't achieve.

Still, are you aware of the effect of transaction cost on your AC society?

[Copernicus]

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There are good arguments for not protecting intellectual property because there is no scarcity. Not sure I agree with them, but it's an interesting point that shows the difference between intellectual property and tangible property.

Copying a movie is not actually taking revenue away from the film company because it is not certain the person receiving the pirated copy would have paid said film company to let him watch it otherwise.

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The ACers use the economic definition of "scarcity" which fits their world view.

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While they may think they are using the economi definition they are misunderstanding and misapplying it. There is a 20+ page thread on it.

[Copernicus]

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Oh, now there IS a difference? Which is it?

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There is a difference between private and public goods, never said otherwise.

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Perhaps you should define what you mean by "public goods"

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What every economist means by public goods - non-rivalry and non-excludability.
Do you constantly run around asking people what they mean by "weather", "bread", "car" or "hat"?

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LOL. Government cannot eliminate or reduce transaction costs. It simply shifts them, transfers them, and masks them.

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In fact they can.

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As for Coase, he himself explicitly recognized and pointed out cases of private production of so-called "public" goods.

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If you read my previous post I'm aware of those cases. It's like pointing out that there are theoretical cases in which the government can work efficiently and create a first best world even the market mechanism couldn't achieve.

Still, are you aware of the effect of transaction cost on your AC society?

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They may be aware of it, but they willfully ignore it, because even in areas such as IP where there may be workable real life AC alternatives, the transaction costs destroy any possible advantage their Rube Goldberg system of individual contracts can possibly have.

[pvn]

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Oh, now there IS a difference? Which is it?

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There is a difference between private and public goods, never said otherwise.

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But you said there was no differece between tangible and intangible property.

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LOL. Government cannot eliminate or reduce transaction costs. It simply shifts them, transfers them, and masks them.

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In fact they can.

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Assert your way to victory! How does this magic occur, exactly?

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As for Coase, he himself explicitly recognized and pointed out cases of private production of so-called "public" goods.

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If you read my previous post I'm aware of those cases. It's like pointing out that there are theoretical cases in which the government can work efficiently and create a first best world even the market mechanism couldn't achieve.

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I have no idea what you're trying to say here. What does an expose of supposed public goods being effectively provided by private means have to do with creating a "first best world" (whatver that is) where central planners magically outperform the market? If anything, it's the exact opposite.

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Still, are you aware of the effect of transaction cost on your AC society?

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Yes and no. I advocate no particular society, so it's impossible to predict what transaction costs will be. But regardless, you seem to be willfully ignoring the transaction costs in your statist society.

[CORed]

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It's theft.

You wouldn't steal a VCR. You wouldn't steal a Car....

^Kidding, but isn't that how the commercials for this stuff go?

Why shouldn't theft be jailable?

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Copyright infringement, while definitely illegal, is not theft. Nothing of value had been taken from its owner, except under the questionable assumption that the people who downloaded the infringing material would have bought it were it not available for free.

[Richard Tanner]

Sweet another IP thread, we haven't had one of these in a long time

Today's forecast calls for a short series of rehashed facts, followed by a long period of defining and redefining terms to fit our needs, then we should get a short repreive while everyones busy reading links before we finish with a flurry of ad hominem attacks and refusal to agree to anything out of principle.

Bring a raincoat folks, storm's a'brewin'

Cody

[pvn]

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Sweet another IP thread, we haven't had one of these in a long time

Today's forecast calls for a short series of rehashed facts, followed by a long period of defining and redefining terms to fit our needs, then we should get a short repreive while everyones busy reading links before we finish with a flurry of ad hominem attacks and refusal to agree to anything out of principle.

Bring a raincoat folks, storm's a'brewin'

Cody

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Let's just get to the good part.

STFU NOOB YOU [censored] SUCK

Good?

[Richard Tanner]

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Sweet another IP thread, we haven't had one of these in a long time

Today's forecast calls for a short series of rehashed facts, followed by a long period of defining and redefining terms to fit our needs, then we should get a short repreive while everyones busy reading links before we finish with a flurry of ad hominem attacks and refusal to agree to anything out of principle.

Bring a raincoat folks, storm's a'brewin'

Cody

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Let's just get to the good part.

STFU NOOB YOU [censored] SUCK

Good?

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Easy kid, believe it or not I wasn't really refering to you. I don't agree with your POV on this one, but I don't have much worry of you going any worse then a few sarcastic remarks. There are plenty of other posters in Poly that make things much worse to sift through.

Cody

[Archon_Wing]

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You're trying to tell me about the difference between a tomato and an apple while I am aware that one is a fruit and the other a vegetable.

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The tomato is a fruit.

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This is the best post in the thread.

That being said, it's not surprising that many judges and such don't have decent knowledge of computers and the internet. Some might just view Linux as some kind of "h4xor OS" and Windows is the only legitimate operating system as annoying as that sounds.