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Old 07-30-2007, 01:48 PM
whymelord whymelord is offline
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Default Collusion ruling

If I'm short stacked in a tournament, go all-in, get multiple callers, then one of the callers mentions to another caller that they should all just check to knock me out. Would I be able to get a rulling that would nullify their hands in any way?

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Old 07-30-2007, 01:52 PM
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Default Re: Collusion ruling

They would probably get a penalty after the hand, but I don't know that a floor would kill their hand.
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Old 07-30-2007, 01:59 PM
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No way are they going to kill anybody's hand.

You might get a TD to issue a penalty to Mr Loudmouth.
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Old 07-30-2007, 02:02 PM
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Default Re: Collusion ruling

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If I'm short stacked in a tournament, go all-in, get multiple callers, then one of the callers mentions to another caller that they should all just check to knock me out. Would I be able to get a rulling that would nullify their hands in any way?

TIA

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I've had this happen several times, and it really pissed me off. I did not bitch to the deal or the TD, but I told the guy to keep his mouth shut during the hand next time - and that it is considered collusion or cheating when you do it.

It's different when everyone kinda just knows to do it. I could care less then.
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Old 07-30-2007, 02:07 PM
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No, you can't kill a hand for this. What normally happens for each successive infraction is: warning, time penalty, disqualification.

There may be some casinos that assess disqualification before the hand is over which would mean a killed hand. Never seen that happen though.
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Old 07-30-2007, 02:17 PM
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Maybe a penalty after...not gonna kill their hands.
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Old 07-30-2007, 03:39 PM
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If I'm short stacked in a tournament, go all-in, get multiple callers, then one of the callers mentions to another caller that they should all just check to knock me out. Would I be able to get a rulling that would nullify their hands in any way?

TIA

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so you like to fight angles with angles? nice.
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Old 07-30-2007, 04:00 PM
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I don't consider enforcing the rules to be an angle.
If the tourney has a rule about explicit "check it down" collusion, then I think suggesting it should not only get the cheater's hand killed, but get him removed from the tournament with no refund.
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Old 07-30-2007, 04:02 PM
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If I'm short stacked in a tournament, go all-in, get multiple callers, then one of the callers mentions to another caller that they should all just check to knock me out. Would I be able to get a rulling that would nullify their hands in any way?

TIA

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so you like to fight angles with angles? nice.

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DO you EVER have a decent (notice I didn't say nice) answer for somone new?
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Old 07-30-2007, 04:04 PM
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I don't consider enforcing the rules to be an angle.

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That is typically what most angles consist of.
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