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Old 11-24-2007, 11:42 AM
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Default two small flushes pushed on river. 600 NL

Villain is 45/5 over 231 hands. Af by street 1.26/1.54/3.6. I need to raise flop right? River is an easy call because he is aggro? I am not sure I had these stats when I was playing he seemed kinda passive.

No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $3/$6
4 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $532.06
Button: $780.28
SB: $399.35
Hero: $1635.4

Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG calls, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $12</font>, SB calls, Hero calls, UTG calls.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($48, 4 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $6</font>, Hero calls, UTG calls, Button calls.

Turn: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($72, 4 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $45</font>, UTG folds, Button calls, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $90</font>, Hero calls, Button calls.

River: 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($342, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB is all-in $291.35</font>, Hero ???.

Villain in this hand is 61/14. and af is .7/.8/2.8 over 243 hands. He pushed river after 1-2 sec thought.

No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $3/$6
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $1421.7
UTG+1: $507.04
CO: $780.39
Button: $1425.4
Hero: $676.65
BB: $1243.1

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $18</font>, Button folds, Hero calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($72, 4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets $30</font>, Hero calls, BB calls, UTG+1 folds.

Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($162, 3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets $42</font>, Hero calls, BB calls.

River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($288, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $200</font>, BB folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises all-in $690.39</font>, Hero ???.
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Old 11-24-2007, 12:55 PM
Praetor Praetor is offline
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Default Re: two small flushes pushed on river. 600 NL

gotta call the 2nd one anyway, he is brain dead, we have good pot odds and he prob thinks a Q is the nuts
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Old 11-24-2007, 12:59 PM
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Default Re: two small flushes pushed on river. 600 NL

fold first one?
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Old 11-24-2007, 01:02 PM
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Default Re: two small flushes pushed on river. 600 NL

Yeah, his line is very consistent with a donk with a flush, and we don't beat many, and there is a guy to act behind us
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Old 11-24-2007, 01:11 PM
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Default Re: two small flushes pushed on river. 600 NL

i'm never folding hand 2 against this guy, ever. btw i don't like it as played, but on river please don't fold. hand 1 we need more information on BTN, i'm much more concerned about him than donk, although he can show up a small set or straight quite often here too.
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Old 11-24-2007, 08:12 PM
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Default Re: two small flushes pushed on river. 600 NL

I fold hand 1 and call hand 2.
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Old 11-24-2007, 08:53 PM
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Default Re: two small flushes pushed on river. 600 NL

in hand one you do beat alot of flushes actually, namely: 65s, 75s, 85s, 76s, 86s, 87s, 53s, 63s, 73s, 83s.
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Old 11-24-2007, 08:53 PM
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Default Re: two small flushes pushed on river. 600 NL

i think you re toast 90% in hand 1 he has a flush every time but maybe a worse one sometimes.
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Old 11-24-2007, 08:55 PM
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Default Re: two small flushes pushed on river. 600 NL

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in hand one you do beat alot of flushes actually, namely: 65s, 75s, 85s, 76s, 86s, 87s, 53s, 63s, 73s, 83s.

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hmm the 3 is in heroes hand too [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img], there really arent many flushes he beats
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Old 11-24-2007, 09:05 PM
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Default Re: two small flushes pushed on river. 600 NL

ya I'd just raise the flop in the first one and take the variance if he pushes with higher flush draw (even so, your equity wouldn't be horrible if your straight outs and 9 are good). Against a 70 BB stack i'd be pretty happy to just 3-bet and hopefully he 4-bets and you get it in on the flop.

Hand 2 is really annoying b/c your line basically wreaks of flush and if player is competent then this is an easy fold... I guess he's donkish enough to make this a call, I just always lose when passive players push the river when they usually just call even with their strong hands (Straights/lower flushes). I guess I'd call though, he's raising PF, and betting two streets.. real passives will check their FD at some point on flop/turn.. unless they had a big combo like AcQc or JcQc.
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