nflush v aoa

[dtan05]

against AoA at 2/4 this would be an instacall, i dunno how he changed since his move to 5/10

[FGators]

If he has us, from what I've played with him, it's 56 or 85.

Actually I think thats what it is. I can probably find a fold here because he never just calls with a flush from my experience with him, on the turn, and even though he is "retarded" I don't think he's retarded enough to just randomly bluff here.

[jfish]

this is the only other big hand we've played, but we're both aggro. it was actually the first hand we'd ever played together, so no reads or history.


Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $5/$10 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

Hero: $990.00
AK SWAT: $1,600.10
BigTic: $1,079.00
AttackDog: $1,283.75
Alotofaction: $1,012.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">Alotofaction raises to $30.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $120.00</font>, AK SWAT folds, Alotofaction calls $90.00

Flop: ($250) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $140.00</font>, <font color="red">Alotofaction raises all-in to $892.00</font>, Hero calls all-in for $730.00
Uncalled bet of $22.00 returned to Alotofaction

Turn: ($1990) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players - 2 All-In)

River: ($1990) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players - 2 All-In)

Pot Size: $1,990.00 ($2 Rake)

Alotofaction had Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] and LOST (-$990.00)
Hero had A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (a pair of Aces) and WON (+$998.00)

[hardkAre]

How does AOA view you jfish? If he thinks your bad I'd probably muck river. I'd probably muck anyway because people don't bluff in these kind of spots v often. Seems like he is showing up with 65/55 and A5 pretty much every time.

[Colombo]

This is prob a call even if your KT was of clubs.

[futuredoc85]

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I would probably call here given AOA's reputation, but this really seems like a horrible spot for him to bluff which confuses me.

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ive never seen that stop him, def calling here

[tommo]

seems like a really weird shove with AQ in the other hand

[AAismyfriend]

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This is prob a call even if your KT was of clubs.

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I guess this is a good point, our hand doesn't exactly=K high here since he can turn marginal made hands into bluffs here.....but if we're calling with the nut flush here shouldn't we be calling with AJ also?

[tommo]

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This is prob a call even if your KT was of clubs.

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I guess this is a good point, our hand doesn't exactly=K high here since he can turn marginal made hands into bluffs here.....but if we're calling with the nut flush here shouldn't we be calling with AJ also?

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I think he might turn A (with Qs) into a bluff here and maybe AK as well. But yes, I would also say call with AQ. Doesn't change much, but most of the time I wouldn't have AQ in this spot (if I were hero).

[aditya]

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This is prob a call even if your KT was of clubs.

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I guess this is a good point, our hand doesn't exactly=K high here since he can turn marginal made hands into bluffs here.....but if we're calling with the nut flush here shouldn't we be calling with AJ also?

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I agree with AA that we shouldn't call with K10cc b/c he could turning A-x's or some other random one pair hands into bluffs.

Regarding the AJ: Here's the dilemna: how often is the pushing the river solely as a bluff? I mean he could be pushing with A8 or A6 hoping that jfish makes a hero call with AJ, AQ, or AK (for simplicity's sake, lets assume he doesn't think Jfish will 3-bet here.) But yeah, I do agree that if he's bluff pushing a lot here K10ss = A-x here essentially.