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Old 05-16-2007, 07:48 PM
nomadtla nomadtla is offline
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Default Re: 86s : tricky hand or standard?

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If you are folding rivers with pairs every time a villian raises the flop but checks the turn you are being bluffed quite often.

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Where in the hell did I say fold that river. I said check behind on that river.
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Old 05-16-2007, 08:03 PM
Niediam Niediam is offline
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Default Re: 86s : tricky hand or standard?

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If you are folding rivers with pairs every time a villian raises the flop but checks the turn you are being bluffed quite often.

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Where in the hell did I say fold that river. I said check behind on that river.

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You said villian won't be calling with any pair because that isn't a strong enough hand to call with...
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Old 05-16-2007, 08:38 PM
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If you are folding rivers with pairs every time a villian raises the flop but checks the turn you are being bluffed quite often.

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Where in the hell did I say fold that river. I said check behind on that river.

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You said villian won't be calling with any pair because that isn't a strong enough hand to call with...

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I am not calling that hand with less then a 6 no you're right. Maybe I am getting bluffed but this pot is small. All this is making the assumption villain thinks whether like I do which is not the case either.

Give me a range of hands that unknown villain leads the flop with. Calls a raise, and calls a river bet. How many of those are we ahead of? behind? and how likely is he to have each?
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Old 05-16-2007, 09:34 PM
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Default Re: 86s : tricky hand or standard?

Grunch...

I don't think you were aggressive enough with this hand... if you're gonna play a hand like this without limpers in front of you, at least raise it.

I like the flop raise...

I'd bet the turn, fold to a re-raise, if he calls check the river.
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Old 05-17-2007, 02:57 AM
ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S is offline
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Default Re: 86s : tricky hand or standard?

preflop fold>raise>>>>>>>>>& gt;>>>>>>>call

flop is probly fine

turn is a bet

river is a bet
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