JJ 2/4 vs unknown.

[CallYNotRaise06]

no reads on villain, hes only been here 1 or 2 orbits, and hasnt been vert active.

hero on the other hand has been 31/28/19, but im not sure if villain knows this.


Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $2/$4
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $401
CO: $401
Hero: $503.80
SB: $1498.20
BB: $419.10

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG calls, CO folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $18</font>, SB folds, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $64</font>, UTG folds, Hero calls.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($134, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets $110</font> Hero....

[nufc4ever]

Fold preflop especially vs a villain who likely does not realise how yr playing. I'm a 40/30 lag and im undecided whether i would call preflop against someone who i knew, knew how i was playing.

as played fold flop you beat TT and AK and not much else.

[KinkyKid]

hero folds. You are an unknown to him and he 3-bets you out of the big blind. Your best hope is that he has either TT or AKs. And I don't think that happens nearly often enough.

[ninjia3x]

what if you had QQ?

[FireStorm]

Fold, you beat nothing other than TT and AK, and if it's AsKs (AsQs), you're not in good shape. If you flat call here he's going to shove the turn, so get out now while you can.

QQ is a bit closer since we obviously then beat JJ, but I still don't like it versus someone described as not very active.

[CallYNotRaise06]

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Fold preflop especially vs a villain who likely does not realise how yr playing. I'm a 40/30 lag and im undecided whether i would call preflop against someone who i knew, knew how i was playing.

as played fold flop you beat TT and AK and not much else

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whaaaa? is folding preflop here standard vs an unkonwn. note im in LP, so im pretty sure his range is a little wider than TT+/AK.

[Black winter day]

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Fold preflop especially vs a villain who likely does not realise how yr playing. I'm a 40/30 lag and im undecided whether i would call preflop against someone who i knew, knew how i was playing.

as played fold flop you beat TT and AK and not much else

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whaaaa? is folding preflop here standard vs an unkonwn. note im in LP, so im pretty sure his range is a little wider than TT+/AK.

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Ok, let's say it isn't standard.You always call.
You flopped an overpair, now what?

Those are tough spots vs unknown, are you just gonna stack off on jacks here?
Last time i did, unknown villain, who took this line had KK.

I'd personally let it go preflop, unless you flop a set you are really in awkward spot, even though you have position.

[schwza]

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Fold preflop especially vs a villain who likely does not realise how yr playing. I'm a 40/30 lag and im undecided whether i would call preflop against someone who i knew, knew how i was playing.

as played fold flop you beat TT and AK and not much else

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whaaaa? is folding preflop here standard vs an unkonwn. note im in LP, so im pretty sure his range is a little wider than TT+/AK.

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if you fold JJ in a button vs bb situation against an unknown you're giving up a ton of value.

[CTKid]

folding pf here is terribly nittish IMO. Against a btn open his range is much, much bigger than TT+/AKs.

I'd 4bet half the time and call half the time.

On the flop, as played I'd let it go because 3 of the pairs in his range that you were beating just made sets, and two others are open ended.

[AK47Suited]

You have 500, villain has 400.

You have to call 46$ more at a 11% chance of winning his remaining 340$.

fold PF here, you can find a better spot, with that kind of a re-raise its very likely its QQ-KK.

again so fold !

holla