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Old 09-10-2007, 03:41 PM
Jw513 Jw513 is offline
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Default Re: 25nl QQ what do we do here?

Limp reraise is always KK/AA. He will not show J3 at this spot. No way in hell. Fold QQ.

People overbet alot to rep a bluff, but usually when they overbet, they have the goods.
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Old 09-10-2007, 03:45 PM
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Default Re: 25nl QQ what do we do here?

I would fold this. Limp/reraise all-in is scary, plus (something it seems the posters forgot here), the Button is still to act, and being the pfraiser, he could have a monster too. BTW, I think your pre-flop reraise was too small. Being OOP, I would make it about 4.50.
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Old 09-10-2007, 03:59 PM
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Default Re: 25nl QQ what do we do here?

Only call if your opponent is a maniac shoving preflop every four or five hands, but against all other players, you are up against Aces or Kings most of the time.
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Old 09-10-2007, 04:01 PM
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Default Re: 25nl QQ what do we do here?

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Call. He thinks your stealing. You will see J3s a huge number of times. Very few people push with AA preflop anyway. I would really worry about a minraise, not a push.

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There is always a chance that villian is bluffing, but in this spot there is no reason for villian to believe you are trying to pick up the pot BEFORE the flop after a limp and a raise.
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Old 09-10-2007, 04:02 PM
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Default Re: 25nl QQ what do we do here?

Fold.
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Old 09-10-2007, 04:08 PM
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Default Re: 25nl QQ what do we do here?

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Fold.

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Agreed...I remember once reading Cloutier saying something about a Re-Re-Re-Raise being, in his words, "99% pur Ivory Snow Aces."

Who knows? Maybe the guy's maniacal, but why waste almost your whole stack on a pair. But hey, I'm a n00b...
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Old 09-10-2007, 04:13 PM
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Default Re: 25nl QQ what do we do here?

Micros full of nits [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Perhaps I should incorporate limp shoving a 3bet with 72o into my arsenal.

ps BWT, following this logic you should also fold KK here. QQ is no different than KK in this spot.
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Old 09-10-2007, 04:23 PM
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Default Re: 25nl QQ what do we do here?

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Micros full of nits [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Perhaps I should incorporate limp shoving a 3bet with 72o into my arsenal.

ps BWT, following this logic you should also fold KK here. QQ is no different than KK in this spot.

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Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

22,259,952 games 0.031 secs 718,062,967 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 20.701% 16.81% 03.89% 3742824 865137.00 { QcQd }
Hand 1: 79.299% 75.41% 03.89% 16786854 865137.00 { KK+, QcQh, QcQs, QdQh, QdQs, QhQs }





Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

22,259,952 games 0.005 secs 4,451,990,400 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 49.995% 46.10% 03.89% 10262230 866591.00 { KcKd }
Hand 1: 50.005% 46.11% 03.89% 10264540 866591.00 { AA, KcKh, KcKs, KdKh, KdKs, KhKs, QQ }



Iff AK is included at least some of the combos it gets better for KK too.
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Old 09-10-2007, 04:56 PM
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Default Re: 25nl QQ what do we do here?

you think hes 5-betting J3? at best ur racing.
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Old 09-11-2007, 12:56 AM
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Default Re: 25nl QQ what do we do here?

Using pokerstove makes you look smart indeed [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] But he never has QQ here. Its either AA/KK or atc.
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