hand4 vs supalagII

[wackjob]

15/30 6-max, Villain 36/26/1.3

Folded to villain who raises OTB, I 3-bet from SB w/ red 66, UNK. BB cold calls 2.

FLOP: Q 9 3 with 2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]'s

I bet, BB folds, button calls.

TURN: 9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

I bet, button raises, I call.

RIVER: 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

I check, call.

[SteveL91]

Against a supaLAG, I'll often c/c the turn and river. My hand will be good too often to b/f the turn, but I don't want to pay 3BBs to see a showdown.

[ILOVEPOKER929]

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Against a supaLAG, I'll often c/c the turn and river. My hand will be good too often to b/f the turn, but I don't want to pay 3BBs to see a showdown.

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I agree with this approach. Also, add in some well timed screw plays, and the superlag will have a harder time exploiting this "showdown cheaply with marginal hand" strategy

[Rudis]

WTFs up with this supalag definition? This guy is passive and somewhat loose.
The guy in the other thread is .not even close to aggressive pf.

[wackjob]

maybe my definition is wrong, i consider someone playing 35/25 or more a super LAG, 45/30 or higher a maniac I consider 30/20-35/25 a LAG/TAG, 25/16-29/20 LAG.

[MoDOH]

wow... superlag... Cool..

I want to be a superlag...

What do you call someone who plays 33/23 sometimes and 27/19 some of the time depending on the players and my image...

[wackjob]

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wow... superlag... Cool..

I want to be a superlag...

What do you call someone who plays 33/23 sometimes and 27/19 some of the time depending on the players and my image...



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decent

[Entity]

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maybe my definition is wrong, i consider someone playing 35/25 or more a super LAG, 45/30 or higher a maniac I consider 30/20-35/25 a LAG/TAG, 25/16-29/20 LAG.

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In order for him to be LAG he's got to be aggressive postflop. 1.3 is not aggressive. He just raises a lot pre.

Rob

[MoDOH]

cool...

I´m decent...

[Zele]

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maybe my definition is wrong, i consider someone playing 35/25 or more a super LAG, 45/30 or higher a maniac I consider 30/20-35/25 a LAG/TAG, 25/16-29/20 LAG.

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wack,

A couple weeks ago I replied to one of your posts in what was probably an arrogant way, but the gist was I thought you were pigeonholing 35/25 type players as lag idiots. I play a lot tighter than this, and most of us successful midlim 2+2'ers do as well, but these players can still be rather dangerous. There are definitely some hard-and-fast preflop constraints in non-HU LHE that are almost certainly a mistake to violate, but there is a fair amount of room for getting slightly out of line, and (as the old cliche goes) superior postflop play can compensate for such preflop indiscretions, or even make them worthwhile.

I really think you should reconsider calling a 35/25ish player a superlag, unless you have a specific postflop read. A 35/25 can certainly be a lag idiot (with a higher probability than a 25/20), but there are so many exceptions that I don't think we can even call this a rule.