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Old 11-27-2006, 09:38 PM
Victor Victor is offline
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Default good use of deception?

ok, so i dont think i have ever done this in like a million hands of poker. hu i often dont cap aa but 3way always cap. except i recently read a schnieds post and well, since we all want to be like schnieds, i gave it a shot.

sb is tag, bb is 60/20 fishyfish.


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Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB 3-bets</font>, BB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (7.5SB, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, BB calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6.75BB, 3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises</font>, BB folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero 3-bets</font>

so, normally i try to avoid 3betting big streets with one pair vs cognizant players (remember that argument) but i figured tag sb could easily misread my hand.
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Old 11-27-2006, 09:54 PM
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Default Re: good use of deception?

prlefolpcapforvaluje, given preflop, turn 3-bet/calling down a cap is fine.
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Old 11-27-2006, 09:54 PM
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Default Re: good use of deception?

Fine. So is a river raise instead.
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Old 11-27-2006, 09:55 PM
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Default Re: good use of deception?

I like the 3-bet.
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Old 11-27-2006, 10:54 PM
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Old 11-28-2006, 12:24 AM
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Old 11-28-2006, 01:18 AM
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Default Re: good use of deception?

by not capping PF, aren't we hoping to draw our opponent into extra bets on the big streets?

looks fine
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Old 11-28-2006, 02:54 AM
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A flop raise on that board given Vic's range will get about as much respect as Rodney Dangerfield dressed up as a Vietnam vet for a halloween party in berkeley.
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Old 11-28-2006, 03:31 AM
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by not capping PF, aren't we hoping to draw our opponent into extra bets on the big streets?

looks fine

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the same number of bets typically go in if hero caps pf
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Old 11-28-2006, 04:06 AM
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Default Re: good use of deception?

SB has AK or KQ most of the time and he thinks you have a ten cuz of your preflop and flop action. Go to town.

Also, three-betting the turn with one pair hands is a must. You're missing a lot of value if you're almost never doing it.
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