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Old 09-18-2007, 01:16 AM
hardkAre hardkAre is offline
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Default Re: QQ and this spot is so [censored] standard and always ugly

Check/Raise AI or Bet/Call, figure out the frequencies for yourselves. Almost never Check/Fold, he would have to be extremely nitty for me to Check/Fold this considering he opened from the button and he knows you like 3/4-betting.
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Old 09-18-2007, 01:33 AM
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Default Re: QQ and this spot is so [censored] standard and always ugly

this seems like a spot where a lot of villains range only gives you one more street of value. hes not calling off with AT if hes at all sane and the only hand that pays turn and river mayyyyybe is JJ. I'm c/cing this turn (c/f vs specific players) and if it checks through value towning river.


if i do bet im bet/calling.
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Old 09-18-2007, 01:52 AM
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Default Re: QQ and this spot is so [censored] standard and always ugly

i bet to induce bluff
i barrel again
i c/c (and lead river)
i c/r
i c/f

in that order/frequency
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Old 09-18-2007, 02:33 AM
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Default Re: QQ and this spot is so [censored] standard and always ugly

I don't get how this is ugly at all. I just think if he was ahead of your QQ he probably would have raised the flop. I usually bet/call here, and if I feel he is aggressive in similar spots I will check looking to c/r ai.
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Old 09-18-2007, 05:08 AM
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Default Re: QQ and this spot is so [censored] standard and always ugly

How do you come on the ida to bet and induce a bluff?
After i bet only 400, he just has 300$ left.
Also the mentioned c/ is not much moe than a call, because we have no FE and he will call with nearly eveything.

Ae we afaid of giving a fee card?

I would like to know, which range you guys give him that will call a turn bet.

Not many good tags call of their stack with a small to medium PP here.
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Old 09-18-2007, 05:18 AM
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Default Re: QQ and this spot is so [censored] standard and always ugly

Dont you have just 645 left? Shove is a pot bet, let him put you on AK and call your "bluff" with 99 or JT?
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Old 09-18-2007, 05:58 AM
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Default Re: QQ and this spot is so [censored] standard and always ugly

wtf - stackadonk obv.
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Old 09-18-2007, 06:24 AM
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Default Re: QQ and this spot is so [censored] standard and always ugly

Of villain's range we beat 77, 88, JJ. If villain is good, He wont call a bet with any of those, and he will check those behind. I think c/f is good.
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Old 09-18-2007, 06:26 AM
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Default Re: QQ and this spot is so [censored] standard and always ugly

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I don't get how this is ugly at all. I just think if he was ahead of your QQ he probably would have raised the flop. I usually bet/call here, and if I feel he is aggressive in similar spots I will check looking to c/r ai.

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Old 09-18-2007, 06:45 AM
Janis N. Janis N. is offline
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Default Re: QQ and this spot is so [censored] standard and always ugly

I mostly crai and shove most rivers if he checks turn behind here. But I stackadonk so much I sometimes think it's even a leak.
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