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Old 05-23-2007, 09:50 PM
PLAY D BOARD PLAY D BOARD is offline
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Default Re: MSNL, Quick Help Me Write An Article

- not giving enough importance to position
- becoming a robot, too mechanic, not going through the whole thought process in every hand
- losing value
- understanding the how whens and whys of their image/choice of style
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Old 05-23-2007, 09:51 PM
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I think a big leak for MSNL are making too many thin calls on non bluffy bets.
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Old 05-23-2007, 10:55 PM
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>Betting to protect too often and to get value too rarely

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Old 05-24-2007, 10:57 AM
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Bluff snapping leaks:

- Using hand strength as the primary variable in determining whether to snap off a bluff or not

- Intentionally underrepping one's hand in some way and then using that as an argument to never fold on future streets, instead of just taking it as one part of the call or fold equation

Draw play leaks:

- Choosing draw aggression on the basis of their outs, instead of examining the board/image and playing them as you would play the most likely made hand. Some boards will make a monster more effective to rep, some top pair.
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Old 05-24-2007, 11:12 AM
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people don't respect big overbets...
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Old 05-24-2007, 08:09 PM
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people don't respect big overbets...

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What site do you play on? I would like to play there.
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Old 05-24-2007, 09:20 PM
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Bluff snapping leaks:

- Using hand strength as the primary variable in determining whether to snap off a bluff or not

- Intentionally underrepping one's hand in some way and then using that as an argument to never fold on future streets, instead of just taking it as one part of the call or fold equation

Draw play leaks:

- Choosing draw aggression on the basis of their outs, instead of examining the board/image and playing them as you would play the most likely made hand. Some boards will make a monster more effective to rep, some top pair.

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I guess nobody reads Bluff anyway so please write about this.
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Old 05-24-2007, 09:24 PM
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not making thin enough value bets

leveling themselves, i do this alot and its a big mistake, most people are more straightforward then you think

id say say drawing too much, bluffinw w/o FE and 0 level thinking but you said good players so im defining that as someone who does those things properly...
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Old 05-24-2007, 09:26 PM
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Calling to set mine far too often especially in 3 bet pots.

Continuation betting too liberally vs fish

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QFT.
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Old 05-24-2007, 10:18 PM
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Bluff snapping leaks:

- Using hand strength as the primary variable in determining whether to snap off a bluff or not

- Intentionally underrepping one's hand in some way and then using that as an argument to never fold on future streets, instead of just taking it as one part of the call or fold equation

Draw play leaks:

- Choosing draw aggression on the basis of their outs, instead of examining the board/image and playing them as you would play the most likely made hand. Some boards will make a monster more effective to rep, some top pair.

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I guess nobody reads Bluff anyway so please write about this.

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QFT
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