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Old 07-23-2007, 09:11 PM
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Default 50NL;KJ flops TPSK; he donks flop, calls raise, and pushes turn

Villian is 51/12.2/1.83 postflop agg. over 90 hands.


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BB ($59.80)
UTG ($31.10)
MP ($44)
CO ($28)
Hero ($50)
SB ($44.85)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls $0.50, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $3</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls $2.50, CO folds.

Flop: ($7.25) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $2</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8.5</font>, UTG calls $6.50.

Turn: ($24.25) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $19.6 (All-In)</font>, Hero ???
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Old 07-23-2007, 09:34 PM
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Default Re: 50NL;KJ flops TPSK; he donks flop, calls raise, and pushes turn

Man you post good hands Lego. I've immediately got a draw draw as a huge part of his range after the donk/call on the flop. This is also TP a lot. On the turn, sometimes he has a monster, sometimes he's semi-bluffing with a strong draw (5c4c for example) and sometimes he thinks his JT is good. I'd say a reasonable breakdown is something like 35% two pair or a set, 35% a draw with around 30% equity, 20% TP, 10% something like TT which means, if my range is reasonable, ou have about 55% equity (I'm doing this in my head, but that should be about right) making this a call. I dunno though. calling here doesn't seem right, maybe my range is bad.
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Old 07-23-2007, 09:36 PM
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Default Re: 50NL;KJ flops TPSK; he donks flop, calls raise, and pushes turn

obviously a tough spot, but I'd probably fold...he's got a large range and there's a good chance your up against 2pair or better...
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Old 07-23-2007, 09:45 PM
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Default Re: 50NL;KJ flops TPSK; he donks flop, calls raise, and pushes turn

I'd probably call because of player's stats.
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Old 07-23-2007, 09:46 PM
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Default Re: 50NL;KJ flops TPSK; he donks flop, calls raise, and pushes turn

I'd prolly fold because of player's stats.
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Old 07-23-2007, 09:47 PM
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Default Re: 50NL;KJ flops TPSK; he donks flop, calls raise, and pushes turn

That's a very high post flop aggression factor for such a high VPIP.
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Old 07-23-2007, 10:03 PM
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Default Re: 50NL;KJ flops TPSK; he donks flop, calls raise, and pushes turn

i call
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Old 07-23-2007, 10:05 PM
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Default Re: 50NL;KJ flops TPSK; he donks flop, calls raise, and pushes turn

turbo call.

These are the hands you want to felt against these types. These people are your friends. Unless you have a read on this fish, this is a good hand to go broke with. He pushes that turn with a lot of crap.
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Old 07-23-2007, 10:09 PM
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Default Re: 50NL;KJ flops TPSK; he donks flop, calls raise, and pushes turn

I call in spots like these, from my experience you should be ahead there often enough
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Old 07-23-2007, 10:12 PM
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Default My Thoughts

Ok my two cents. The flop donk is usually a draw or top pair or second pair with a mediocre kicker. I don't need to worry about top pair or second pair cause I beat it. And the turn didn't really complete any draws, but made some more of them and also he could have a draw + a pair now.

And I really do think if a set gets played this way most people would push the flop although most would also check in the first place with a set. Two pairs are very unlikely....What two pair could he have?

So after like 15 seconds or so I called.
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