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Old 08-25-2007, 09:13 AM
AAismyfriend AAismyfriend is offline
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Default 3/6 Why do I get the urge to do these things?

UTG is a donk, button is TAG regular on the nitty side of things, and pretty ABC. He's definately raising a big hand on this flop vs the donk. I'm getting good odds to draw here, but I felt this was a good time to steal this one. Yay or nay?

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $3/$6 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $857.15
Hero (BB): $1,550.70
UTG: $765.75
CO: $215.80
BTN: $820.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $12.00</font>, CO folds, BTN calls $12.00, SB folds, Hero calls $6.00

Flop: ($39) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $12.00</font>, BTN calls $12.00, Hero calls $12.00

Turn: ($75) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $25.00</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $85.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $234.00</font>
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Old 08-25-2007, 09:37 AM
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Default Re: 3/6 Why do I get the urge to do these things?

I can imagine a set only calling on the flop or of course a hand like Jxh. Neither hand will fold especially if its a J with a high kicker.

What most likely will happen with your reraise is, that you run into a push of a slowplayed hand from the flop or a call from BTN and you OOP.
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Old 08-25-2007, 09:42 AM
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Default Re: 3/6 Why do I get the urge to do these things?

Flop seems much better to c/r no?

Also, I fold preflop. Q9o is a ridiculous hand oop.
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Old 08-25-2007, 09:45 AM
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Default Re: 3/6 Why do I get the urge to do these things?

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Flop seems much better to c/r no?

Also, I fold preflop. Q9o is a ridiculous hand oop.

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BUT IT'S A MINRAISE
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Old 08-25-2007, 09:50 AM
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Default Re: 3/6 Why do I get the urge to do these things?

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I can imagine a set only calling on the flop or of course a hand like Jxh. Neither hand will fold especially if its a J with a high kicker.

What most likely will happen with your reraise is, that you run into a push of a slowplayed hand from the flop or a call from BTN and you OOP.

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He can have only one set here and I could only see him flatting a set if the donk made a reasonable bet, but he bet $12 into $39, which pretty much discounts that entirely. Do you honestly think a nittyish reg is calling this raise with just a jack? I'm more worried about UTG donk here honestly. I am just curious as to whether or not people think I make them both fold enough times here for this to be +ev.
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Old 08-25-2007, 09:54 AM
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Default Re: 3/6 Why do I get the urge to do these things?

How could you have a set here? are you repping 22?
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Old 08-25-2007, 09:54 AM
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Default Re: 3/6 Why do I get the urge to do these things?

i personally dont, but im a nit i guess. im more worried about donkey too. Tag might talk himself into calling given the drawy board.
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Old 08-25-2007, 09:57 AM
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i personally dont, but im a nit i guess. im more worried about donkey too. Tag might talk himself into calling given the drawy board.

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I guess I'm not really repping much but he's seen me do some pretty tricky stuff before with big hands, plus he's nitty....
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Old 08-25-2007, 10:00 AM
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Default Re: 3/6 Why do I get the urge to do these things?

nitty meaning bad?

the thing is if i got here with just the donk (i'd usually just raise flop, depending on how bad he is) then i wouldnt be raising that turn.
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Old 08-25-2007, 10:01 AM
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nitty meaning bad?

the thing is if i got here with just the donk (i'd usually just raise flop, depending on how bad he is) then i wouldnt be raising that turn.

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The button isn't bad, just unimaginative.
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