Tight fold

Isura · #1 07-12-2006, 11:03 PM

Villain is 40/5 or so, no other reads.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($101.80)
Button ($87.35)
SB ($77.05)
BB ($55.30)
UTG ($97.90)
Hero ($102.95)

Preflop: Hero is MP with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero raises to $4, 1 fold, Button calls $4, SB calls $3.50, BB calls $3.

Flop: ($16) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $11, Button folds, SB folds, BB raises to $22, Hero folds.

wall_st · #2 07-12-2006, 11:09 PM

Seems pretty standard, but I am slightly torn because BB is a short stack. If I were playing hastily I would just put him all in.

Vincent · #3 07-12-2006, 11:15 PM

This is standard? This board is so drawy though.

terp · #4 07-12-2006, 11:15 PM

this is a pretty nitty fold isura...any reason you thought it was good?

Isura · #5 07-12-2006, 11:17 PM

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this is a pretty nitty fold isura...any reason you thought it was good?

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I figure that I'm either slightly ahead to QJ[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] or something or way behind KT,TT,66, AA. I couldn't see loose passive guy check/raise KQ here against the preflop raiser.

Vincent · #6 07-12-2006, 11:18 PM

How about A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]X[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]? That's a bunch of hands I could see a 40/5 have here.

wall_st · #7 07-12-2006, 11:32 PM

What are his AF ratings ?

My thought process here is that with only a 5% pre flop raise he is not all that aggro post flop either and every time I push to a min raise I get stacked.

Vincent · #8 07-12-2006, 11:36 PM

So you need 34% equity or better to call this. Here's some hand ranges adjusted for suits.

Opponent has AA, KK, TT, 66, AK, KTs, AQs, AJs, QJs in the first one. 31.8%
Board: Kh Th 6d
equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 31.8278 % 17.55% 14.28% { AdKc }
Hand 2: 68.1722 % 53.89% 14.28% { AcAh, AcAs, AhAs, KdKs, TcTd, TcTs, TdTs, 6c6h, 6c6s, 6h6s, AcKc, AhKh, AsKs, AhQh, AhJh, KdQd, KsQs, QhJh, AcKd, AcKs, AhKd, AhKs, AsKd } 

Here I had AXs. 34.7%
Board: Kh Th 6d
equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 34.7060 % 23.91% 10.80% { AdKc }
Hand 2: 65.2940 % 54.49% 10.80% { AcAh, AcAs, AhAs, KdKs, TcTd, TcTs, TdTs, 6c6h, 6c6s, 6h6s, AcKc, AhKh, AsKs, AhQh, AhJh, Ah9h, Ah8h, Ah7h, Ah5h, Ah4h, Ah3h, Ah2h, KdTd, KsTs, QhJh, AcKd, AcKs, AhKd, AhKs, AsKd } 

Here I add KQ. 45.7%
Board: Kh Th 6d
equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 45.6888 % 37.15% 08.53% { AdKc }
Hand 2: 54.3112 % 45.78% 08.53% { AcAh, AcAs, AhAs, KdKs, TcTd, TcTs, TdTs, 6c6h, 6c6s, 6h6s, AcKc, AhKh, AsKs, AhQh, AhJh, Ah9h, Ah8h, Ah7h, Ah5h, Ah4h, Ah3h, Ah2h, KdQd, KsQs, KdTd, KsTs, QhJh, AcKd, AcKs, AhKd, AhKs, AsKd, KdQc, KdQh, KdQs, KsQc, KsQd, KsQh }


Unless you have a lock read, I think this shows you have to call. At the worst, you're losing 2.2% equity.

yad · #9 07-12-2006, 11:48 PM

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this is a pretty nitty fold isura...any reason you thought it was good?

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I figure that I'm either slightly ahead to QJ[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] or something or way behind KT,TT,66, AA.

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So why not peel one for $11 and see what he does on the turn? His action on either a heart or non-heart turn will be revealing.

Isura · #10 07-13-2006, 12:00 AM

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this is a pretty nitty fold isura...any reason you thought it was good?

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I figure that I'm either slightly ahead to QJ[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] or something or way behind KT,TT,66, AA.

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So why not peel one for $11 and see what he does on the turn? His action on either a heart or non-heart turn will be revealing.

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He'll have like $30 left in a $50 pot. His action isn't going to tell us much..