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Re: Shove or CRAI River with monster?
Stick it in.
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Re: Shove or CRAI River with monster?
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Gotta bet. Odds of him looking you up are way higher than him bluffing after you bet the turn. [/ QUOTE ] |
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Re: Shove or CRAI River with monster?
shove. you lose way to much value by checking. if he was chasing with the K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] he'll pay you off regardless and if he was just drawing he will check behind.
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Re: Shove or CRAI River with monster?
Please don't try a CR here.
[ QUOTE ] Value bet river [/ QUOTE ] How much you value betting, $60-$70ish? |
#15
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Re: Shove or CRAI River with monster?
Villain just can't be calling 3 bets here without being a complete donk esp a decent sized value bet.
In this situation I like a bet of $45. I can't see villain calling anything larger than this often enough with a weaker hand. This amount may also induce a bluff raise by villain. |
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Re: Shove or CRAI River with monster?
shove shove shove.
Checking is bad because villain almost never gets to this river with a hand that has no showdown value. So you're basically hoping he value bets a worse hand - but if he perceives his hand as being strong enough to value bet then he will likely perceive it as strong enough to call with. |
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Re: Shove or CRAI River with monster?
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Villain just can't be calling 3 bets here without being a complete donk esp a decent sized value bet. In this situation I like a bet of $45. I can't see villain calling anything larger than this often enough with a weaker hand. This amount may also induce a bluff raise by villain. [/ QUOTE ] River pot is $108 and we have ~ $102 left. If I am betting this river, then I am shoving like 100% of the time. Does anyone disagree? My reasoning would be that a shove represents the widest range of hands, and will extract the most value. If villain is calling $70 then he is most likely calling a shove as well. |
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Re: Shove or CRAI River with monster?
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[ QUOTE ] Villain just can't be calling 3 bets here without being a complete donk esp a decent sized value bet. In this situation I like a bet of $45. I can't see villain calling anything larger than this often enough with a weaker hand. This amount may also induce a bluff raise by villain. [/ QUOTE ] River pot is $108 and we have ~ $102 left. If I am betting this river, then I am shoving like 100% of the time. Does anyone disagree? My reasoning would be that a shove represents the widest range of hands, and will extract the most value. If villain is calling $70 then he is most likely calling a shove as well. [/ QUOTE ] I love a shove, and I hate any other play. Any hand he is betting on the river, he is calling a shove with, since betting the river any amount gives him amazing odds to call a push, unless he is bluffing the river, which he is never doing. He will check behind weak Ax hands if you check. |
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Re: Shove or CRAI River with monster?
i hope i didnt tell you to c/r this [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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