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Old 08-31-2007, 11:01 PM
AAismyfriend AAismyfriend is offline
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Default 3/6 AA BvB against big donk....strange spot, need a line 175BBs deep

Villain is a complete nutjob, playing like 67/14 and loves to mash the pot button. He's been caught bluffing a bunch, and he doesn't really have a fold button from what I've seen. He could have anything from air to 9s full here, and I'm pretty sure if I raise here he's not folding a K.....he probably doesn't even fold a J. Do I go into c/c mode here or do I go for a c/r and try and get it in? On a slightly dryer board I'd almost certainly go into c/c mode but there are a lot of river cards that are gonna make things really ugly if I just call the turn....but raising seems kinda spewy this deep no? The following is the only pot I've played vs him this far....

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $3/$6 Blinds - 4 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $1,277.05
BB: $518.20
UTG: $934.65
Hero (BTN): $885.90

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $21.00</font>, SB calls $18.00, BB folds

Flop: ($48) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $48.00</font>, Hero calls $48.00

Turn: ($144) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($144) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $144.00</font>, Hero calls $144.00

Pot Size: $432.00 ($2 Rake)

SB had T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ([Ts 3s] a straight, Queen high) and LOST (-$213.00)
Hero had K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (a flush, King high) and WON (+$217.00)

Here's the hand in question

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $3/$6 Blinds - 4 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

Hero (SB): $1,096.90
BB: $1,037.05
UTG: $514.45
BTN: $962.65

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $20.00</font>, BB calls $14.00

Flop: ($40) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $31.00</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $62.00</font>, Hero calls $31.00

Turn: ($164) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BB bets $164.00</font>,
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Old 08-31-2007, 11:16 PM
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Default Re: 3/6 AA BvB against big donk....strange spot, need a line 175BBs d

Super easy flop 3 bet, as played make it 400 and get it in.
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Old 08-31-2007, 11:32 PM
Gary Stevenson Gary Stevenson is offline
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Default Re: 3/6 AA BvB against big donk....strange spot, need a line 175BBs d

i dont think his flop min raise is a bluff that often which is why i wouldn't go into c/c mode. i'd like to get it in against the described player
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Old 08-31-2007, 11:55 PM
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Default Re: 3/6 AA BvB against big donk....strange spot, need a line 175BBs deep

seom timesi think you have to sober up a bit and look at the hand itself. its a $40 pot on the flop gods sake. is it worth 1K? i dunno but a check raise seems like you are letting villain play perfectly if he has you beat.

i think check/call is ok. you will have to call any river card but this is the problem with being OOP with one pr. if he has only a J or a K or has JK he can only draw out by catching a 2outer. If he has a big draw, well he might hit. but lets say a Q falls. it may not be that bad for you. It may slow the action down and get you a cheap shodown, or tempt him to turn his hand in to a lbuff.

raising is not that freat here as it basically is equivalent to play for stacks. alternatively, folding is noit terrible.
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Old 09-01-2007, 12:49 AM
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Default Re: 3/6 AA BvB against big donk....strange spot, need a line 175BBs d

lol
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Old 09-01-2007, 12:53 AM
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Default Re: 3/6 AA BvB against big donk....strange spot, need a line 175BBs d

3bet flop, as played cr turn because hes calling with KX and a draw
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Old 09-01-2007, 01:02 AM
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Default Re: 3/6 AA BvB against big donk....strange spot, need a line 175BBs d

What about the KK hand? Why not raise flop? Why not bet turn? If more of the big clubs besides the ace were still out I don't think a raise on the river would be bad.
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Old 09-01-2007, 01:12 AM
AAismyfriend AAismyfriend is offline
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Default Re: 3/6 AA BvB against big donk....strange spot, need a line 175BBs d

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What about the KK hand? Why not raise flop? Why not bet turn? If more of the big clubs besides the ace were still out I don't think a raise on the river would be bad.

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He was pretty new to the table and I didn't have any reads on him in the KK hand, otherwise I would have def jammed the flop.
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Old 09-01-2007, 06:04 AM
ArturiusX ArturiusX is offline
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Default Re: 3/6 AA BvB against big donk....strange spot, need a line 175BBs d

The 9 is a good card, get it in.
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