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Old 05-22-2007, 10:28 PM
BetweenTheBars BetweenTheBars is offline
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Ivey will most likely win the main event and the 50k horse

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Old 05-22-2007, 10:34 PM
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5 bracelets playing 2 tourneys not possible

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possible for ivey, not for you
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Old 05-22-2007, 10:35 PM
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this is his 4th this year so if he wins a nice 25% rate is not bad, he doesnt care for tournaments because of side games like he used to he said yesterday, does not think there as profitable
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Old 05-22-2007, 11:01 PM
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This guy is to good, and his tournament results are hard to compare with those of Ungar, in his time there were about 3 people in every $10.000 tournament, no wonder he won a bigger %.
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Old 05-22-2007, 11:11 PM
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you guys are all overestimating iveys roi, there's no way he wins 30% of the tourneys he enters. he plays very weak-tight. any decent player will be able to run him over easily. everyone has a good string of variance over the course of a ten year period. I'd say that ivey would be lucky to win 20% of every tournament he enters, he probably only wins 15%.
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Old 05-22-2007, 11:19 PM
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20% is prob right. i can easily see him winning 1 out of 5 he enters
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Old 05-22-2007, 11:23 PM
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Default Re: Ivey another final table

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you guys are all overestimating iveys roi, there's no way he wins 30% of the tourneys he enters. he plays very weak-tight. any decent player will be able to run him over easily. everyone has a good string of variance over the course of a ten year period. I'd say that ivey would be lucky to win 20% of every tournament he enters, he probably only wins 15%.

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haha weak tight, 7 million in tourney winnings, all these players he beats at final tables are decent players
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Old 05-22-2007, 11:31 PM
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you guys are all overestimating iveys roi, there's no way he wins 30% of the tourneys he enters. he plays very weak-tight. any decent player will be able to run him over easily. everyone has a good string of variance over the course of a ten year period. I'd say that ivey would be lucky to win 20% of every tournament he enters, he probably only wins 15%.

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haha weak tight, 7 million in tourney winnings, all these players he beats at final tables are decent players

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7 millions in tourny winnings yes, but what about the 70 million in buyins? Hmmm?

Personally I think he is 17 percent at best.
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Old 05-22-2007, 11:36 PM
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Sure, a normal player of phil ivey's skill only wins 20% of his tournaments. But since he is phil ivey, other plays around him play worse so he gets another 10% in winning value.

You understand at a typical table with phil ivey, 3-4 of the 9 people are just trying to dump their chips to ivey so they can tell their friends they lost to him.
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Old 05-22-2007, 11:36 PM
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hes not a internet player, he doesnt play every tournament before the main event tourneys , hes played 4 this year already making back his money with this 1 final table
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