Cotto Vs Mosley

[Enrico Pallazzo]

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I'm surprised at some of the pro-Mosley comments here... I've been thinking that Cotto is the side here -> too strong, home 'ring' advantage... etc.

Either way, this one might be as good as the Calzaghe fight last week.

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I just don't see it...Mosley has the reach, mosley has the speed, mosley has the experience, and mosley has been tested ...

This is one of those times where if Mosley wins, I have serious regret because from what I can tell I'm supposed to bet 10u on him...but i certainly won't put any heavy action on him. Why? I just don't trust my boxing knowledge enough.

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That was the reason for my bump, all signs point to Shane, and I'm looking for reasons not to take him at +130 if there are any obvious ones I am overlooking. I think he is more of a live dog than Pavlik was. Cotto had issues with Judah and got knocked silly for a while by Torres too. As long as Shane has enough of his "prime" left, I think he can make a bloody mess of Cotto. The guys that beat Shane, Wright and Forrest, are nothing at all like Cotto.

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That was the reason for my bump, all signs point to Shane, and I'm looking for reasons not to take him at +130 if there are any obvious ones I am overlooking. I think he is more of a live dog than Pavlik was. Cotto had issues with Judah and got knocked silly for a while by Torres too. As long as Shane has enough of his "prime" left, I think he can make a bloody mess of Cotto. The guys that beat Shane, Wright and Forrest, are nothing at all like Cotto.

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I certainly wouldn't say all signs point to Mosely. He is 36 years old and is a former BALCO steriod abuser/cheater. Cotto, on the other hand, is 27 and definitely in his prime.

While it's true that Cotto displayed a weak chin at 140 (getting rocked bad by Corley as well as Torres), he's looked great at 147. I was at his fight with Judah, so I didn't have the best view (meaning I haven't seen the TV replay), but I don't know what you are talking about when you say he had "problems" with him. It was a pretty dominating performance against the former undisputed 147lbs champ.

As for Mosely, when is the last time he fought a top fighter in his prime? I guess you would have to go back to Vernon Forrest (2002), if you could consider Vernon a top fighter (and of course he lost that fight).

I am not saying he doesn't have an impressive resume. His wins over DLH are impressive, and there is no great shame in losing to Wright at 154. My point is that he tends to stick to big name, over the hill, over-rated fighters. That's how you get massive paydays in boxing, so who can blame him?

Anyway, I haven't bet on this match because I am not sure how it will turn out. My gut tells me that Cotto will be too much for Mosely, bringing just too much pace (inluding bodywork) for 36 year old Mosely to keep up with. But then there is the fact that Mosely has been successful as high as 154 lbs, and maybe Cotto's weak chin/bad defense is still there even at 147.

So I'm not gonna be on either side of this fight, but I totally disagree that all signs point to Mosely. This seems like a really interesting fight and I am excited to watch it.

[TomCowley]

Even though Mosley has the handspeed and technique edge, he's fundamentally an aggressor. He also isn't the ridiculous combination-punching machine he was a couple of divisions lower. He hasn't really shown one-punch power above 135. Torres and Judah are much bigger punchers, and even though they hurt Cotto, they couldn't finish him. I'd be surprised by an early Mosley KO.

Mosley isn't Mayweather- he's going to come forward, since that's just what he does, and he's going to get hit to the body, and he's probably going to get hit to the body a lot. Can Mosley, at 36, post-BALCO, take those shots and still be effective in the second half of the fight, or is he going to get broken down like everybody else Cotto has faced? That's the theme of this fight IMO.

I don't begin to know how to objectively cap something like that, since Mosley hasn't faced a sick body puncher since at least 2000 (if ever, I don't know all of the early names he's beaten). Cotto has fought A-/B+ level guys with much better handspeed and beaten them anyway.

Cotto -150, which is 60% to win, doesn't seem that far out of line. Put a gun to my head, and I'm taking Cotto -150, but it's not a fight I'm looking to jump on heavy since the central theme is so hard to cap.

[Enrico Pallazzo]

http://msn.foxsports.com/boxing/story/7427142

interesting mix of opinions. Still leaning towards Shane, hoping for better price, hoping that people will take the undefeated guy over the 4 loss guy. It should be exciting.

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Even though Mosley has the handspeed and technique edge, he's fundamentally an aggressor. He also isn't the ridiculous combination-punching machine he was a couple of divisions lower. He hasn't really shown one-punch power above 135. Torres and Judah are much bigger punchers, and even though they hurt Cotto, they couldn't finish him. I'd be surprised by an early Mosley KO.

Mosley isn't Mayweather- he's going to come forward, since that's just what he does, and he's going to get hit to the body, and he's probably going to get hit to the body a lot. Can Mosley, at 36, post-BALCO, take those shots and still be effective in the second half of the fight, or is he going to get broken down like everybody else Cotto has faced? That's the theme of this fight IMO.

I don't begin to know how to objectively cap something like that, since Mosley hasn't faced a sick body puncher since at least 2000 (if ever, I don't know all of the early names he's beaten). Cotto has fought A-/B+ level guys with much better handspeed and beaten them anyway.

Cotto -150, which is 60% to win, doesn't seem that far out of line. Put a gun to my head, and I'm taking Cotto -150, but it's not a fight I'm looking to jump on heavy since the central theme is so hard to cap.

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For me, you put it perfectly. This is exactly how I feel about the fight. I suspect that Mosely won't be able to handle the pace and body attack that Cotto will bring, and whether or not he can will decide the fight. Can Cotto impose his will and force Mosely to fight at his pace?

Because Mosely has not fought anyone who fights like Cotto in recent memory, I find it hard to handicap this fight. I can't remember him ever facing a young, strong, aggressive fighter who will force the pace and pound the body. I am not gonna touch either side.

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Mosley isn't Mayweather- he's going to come forward, since that's just what he does, and he's going to get hit to the body, and he's probably going to get hit to the body a lot. Can Mosley, at 36, post-BALCO, take those shots and still be effective in the second half of the fight, or is he going to get broken down like everybody else Cotto has faced? That's the theme of this fight IMO.

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That's what I feel also, well said...however, I can see it unfolding exactly like this, with a 6-9th round knockout from Cotto.

I like Cotto +425 to KO/TKO/DQ for 4u

[BK1248]

Creo que Cotto le va a matar. Cotto KO < 7.

Viva Puerto Rico!!!!!

[igetbadbeat]

Did Cotto still look like a good bet to you guys @ -145 and worse?