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Old 11-03-2007, 09:41 PM
McRoNiX McRoNiX is offline
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Default Scared JJ

Villain is 21/12/4.7 over 100 hands.
I hate this spot. I hate being out of position here. If I bet 60ish on the turn I'm committed and when he checks behind then shoves river I have no idea what he has. Maybe I went about this hand totally the wrong way also. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
Absolute Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
5 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $102.40
CO: $81.75
Button: $536.65
SB: $147
Hero: $208.80

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG folds, CO calls, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $6</font>, SB folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $22</font>, CO folds, Button calls.

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($47, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $28</font>, Button calls.

Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($103, 2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.

River: 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($103, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $53</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $220</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero ??????
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Old 11-03-2007, 09:46 PM
AMT AMT is offline
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Default Re: Scared JJ

I feel like checking the river as played or checking the flop both are reasonable.
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Old 11-03-2007, 09:53 PM
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Default Re: Scared JJ

I'd bet the turn here alot but it really depends on your image. I think you played it ok up to the river where I would bet more (70ish), but fold to the raise.
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Old 11-03-2007, 11:41 PM
facetongue facetongue is offline
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Default Re: Scared JJ

i hate checking the flop here. this spot is tough enough, better to give yourself a chance to win on the flop.

as played, either bet more on the river and fold to a raise or c/c for some semblance of pot control/to induce a bluff.
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Old 11-03-2007, 11:44 PM
KeanuReaver KeanuReaver is offline
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Default Re: Scared JJ

assuming you folded the river the hand was played fine, only change is you probably should have bet more
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Old 11-03-2007, 11:44 PM
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Default Re: Scared JJ

yeah i think you really mind [censored] yourself with this kind of bet sizing...like is he rasing bc my bet looks weak etc...

unless you are relatively certain that he bets turn with a Q i woudl fold
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Old 11-04-2007, 02:34 AM
mdkrahn mdkrahn is offline
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Default Re: Scared JJ

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yeah i think you really mind [censored] yourself with this kind of bet sizing...like is he rasing bc my bet looks weak etc...

unless you are relatively certain that he bets turn with a Q i woudl fold

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given turn action,
he's almost never raising the river as a bluff.

I like the river bet with previous streets as played.
Pretty easy fold I think to the raise.
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Old 11-04-2007, 06:48 AM
Theresalwaysone Theresalwaysone is offline
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Default Re: Scared JJ

I don't always 3bet with JJ pre here. Calling is fine and makes it no harder to put the villain on a hand.

Flop bet is fine but checking it to induce a bluff or bet( from a weaker pair/ahigh that thinks they're good) is also fine.

I ALWAYS bet the turn here given the action.

Check and call/fold river is read dependant.

Unlucky he has filled up though.
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Old 11-04-2007, 08:00 AM
EddieRooo EddieRooo is offline
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Default Re: Scared JJ

wp, now fold. Regarding their raise, I doubt this is a hand you beat being turned into a bluff like this.
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