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Old 06-12-2007, 12:02 AM
Triumph36 Triumph36 is offline
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HAY GUYZ, WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU RUN IT 7 TIMES?

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zomg but there are more outs for JJ than AA sooo JJ wins

ahnuld you are a huge fish ldo - anyway that's definitely a sick beat, i suggest lots of alcohol and going into the pit to donk off money
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Old 06-12-2007, 12:05 AM
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How do you get closer to the expected probability outcome of an event? Why, by doing more trials, of course.

If I flip a coin twice and it comes up heads twice, then that's 100% heads and 0% tails, which is far from the 50% heads and 50% tails expected results.

If you flip the coin 4 times and it comes up heads three times and tails one time, that's 75/25, which is closer to 50/50 than 100/0.

The more times you run any one situation from the point of all-in, the closer you are going to get to the real EV of the hands.

Say it takes you 1000 hands to get in a certain all-in situation, such as AA vs KK preflop. If you run the board twice each time, it's like having to wait only 500 hands before each time that situation occurs. Therefore, it is repeated more often, resulting in values closer to true EV than if you had not.
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Old 06-12-2007, 12:06 AM
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HAY GUYZ, WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU RUN IT 7 TIMES?

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you run out of cards
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Old 06-12-2007, 12:07 AM
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I saw a similar hand happen at the Wynn last year in a $5/$10 game:

A bunch of people limp in. Flop comes 34Qr. A few people check to a guy in LP who bets ~50 or so into ~60. A caller somewhere, BB calls, guy in MP c/rs to $150ish. Folds to BB who calls.

Turn is an A, BB checks, MP bets $500 real fast, BB c/rs all in for like $2000 more.

MP Tanks forever and finally calls.

Literally the SECOND he said call, BB says "I have the nuts right now, but I know you have a set. Wanna run it twice?" As the guy is in the middle of agreeing to it, the dealer burns and turns a board pair. The guy with the set is all "Too late! Too late! I didn't agree yet!" Even though it was obvious to the table that he had.

BB is FLIPPING out at this angle shot, and calls the floor. The table confirms that the guy agreed to run it twice, but the floor decides that apparently it wasn't binding for whatever reason, and ships suckout artist the pot.

BB storms off amid a cloud of profanity. SA plays like one more orbit and leaves, before BB returns.
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Old 06-12-2007, 12:09 AM
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I saw a similar hand happen at the Wynn last year in a $5/$10 game:

A bunch of people limp in. Flop comes 34Qr. A few people check to a guy in LP who bets ~50 or so into ~60. A caller somewhere, BB calls, guy in MP c/rs to $150ish. Folds to BB who calls.

Turn is an A, BB checks, MP bets $500 real fast, BB c/rs all in for like $2000 more.

MP Tanks forever and finally calls.

Literally the SECOND he said call, BB says "I have the nuts right now, but I know you have a set. Wanna run it twice?" As the guy is in the middle of agreeing to it, the dealer burns and turns a board pair. The guy with the set is all "Too late! Too late! I didn't agree yet!" Even though it was obvious to the table that he had.

BB is FLIPPING out at this angle shot, and calls the floor. The table confirms that the guy agreed to run it twice, but the floor decides that apparently it wasn't binding for whatever reason, and ships suckout artist the pot.

BB storms off amid a cloud of profanity. SA plays like one more orbit and leaves, before BB returns.

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SA was later found dead in the parking lot amirite?
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Old 06-12-2007, 12:19 AM
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EV calculation of running it twice ftw..

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uh, almost exactly the same as running it once except two more cards are exposed?

[/ QUOTE ]but it's random which two cards are exposed so it's equal ev to run it twice.

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Point of my post...
I'll make myself more clear next time.
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Old 06-12-2007, 12:30 AM
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Default Re: ahnuld loses his biggest pot, live

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HAY GUYZ, WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU RUN IT 7 TIMES?

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zomg but there are more outs for JJ than AA sooo JJ wins

ahnuld you are a huge fish ldo - anyway that's definitely a sick beat, i suggest lots of alcohol and going into the pit to donk off money

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wtf is ldo?
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Old 06-12-2007, 12:50 AM
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as soon as i read op, i knew that this whole thread would just be posters yelling as someone who doesn't get that running it twice is neutral ev.
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Old 06-12-2007, 01:22 AM
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HAY GUYZ, WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU RUN IT 7 TIMES?

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you run out of cards

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O RLY?
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Old 06-12-2007, 01:24 AM
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running it twice here is total P000nage.


move to america
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