Overpair vs donk bet

Isura · #1 04-28-2006, 02:40 PM

Last one for today. No real reads, but I remember vaguely that he was pretty loose preflop. So his calling range is more than AA-TT, AK. Call and shove turn? Or just get it in now?

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $201.38
UTG+1: $172
CO: $89.05
Isura: $102.75
SB: $99.05
BB: $84.25

Pre-flop: (6 players) Isura is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
2 folds, CO raises to $4, Isura raises to $14, 2 folds, CO calls.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($29.5, 2 players)
CO bets $12

djoyce003 · #2 04-28-2006, 02:43 PM

call and shove the turn...he's making a feeler bet with his pocket pair probably, raising now tells him that it's beat.

Dan Bitel · #3 04-28-2006, 02:43 PM

At the table I would push

Looking back on it, I'm always annoyed that I don't calls and shove turn

Lucky · #4 04-28-2006, 02:45 PM

definitely just call here. If you jam it now, even this guy mucks a lot of what you want him to continue with.

If you call here, maybe he convinces himself youre stubborn with AK and will fire a blank turn with his TT or 99.

MyTurn2Raise · #5 04-28-2006, 04:33 PM

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call and shove the turn...he's making a feeler bet with his pocket pair probably, raising now tells him that it's beat.

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agreed...he's making your AK and AQ look bad. Most loose guys would slowplay a monster here and I go with that as the default until I have a note to say otherwise.

He'll lead out at the turn, of course, and be committed when you push the turn...
nh

Ness · #6 04-28-2006, 04:37 PM

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definitely just call here. If you jam it now, even this guy mucks a lot of what you want him to continue with.

If you call here, maybe he convinces himself youre stubborn with AK and will fire a blank turn with his TT or 99.

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Correct. I am playing for my stack on this flop. If this tricky bastard has AA, so be it.

However, I agree with lucky that he will fold a lot of hands he will commit himself with on the turn.

What do you do if the turn is A or K?

Regards,

ness

ChipStorm · #7 04-28-2006, 04:42 PM

That's a pretty lame bet on his part. I'd get it in now, likely take it down, rather than give him a chance to hit his miracle. Playing the turn may get you another bet but it adds variance.

Ness · #8 04-28-2006, 04:43 PM

MINRAISE, NIGGA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]

NaobisDad · #9 04-28-2006, 06:13 PM

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At the table I would push

Looking back on it, I'm always annoyed that I don't calls and shove turn

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I agree with this.

Isura · #10 04-28-2006, 07:47 PM

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At the table I would push

Looking back on it, I'm always annoyed that I don't calls and shove turn

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Yeah, I pushed. I still think it's not that wrong. A few turn cards could either make me hate my hand, or make him throw away his. I pushed and he folded.