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Old 10-01-2006, 12:50 PM
frankx99x frankx99x is offline
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Default Nut Flush Draw on Small Stack

This is a 20+2 MTT. I am new to the table with a small stack. I limp in from the BB with suited A. What is the best approach for this flop?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO (t5265)
Button (t4335)
SB (t2935)
Hero (t2500)
UTG (t6884)
UTG+1 (t13927)
UTG+2 (t5939)
MP1 (t3711)
MP2 (t3750)
MP3 (t2344)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+2 calls t200, <font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, Hero checks.

Flop: (t500) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero?
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Old 10-01-2006, 01:29 PM
markbris markbris is offline
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Default Re: Nut Flush Draw on Small Stack

Id bet the pot on the flop and try to get it all in as you need to double up and this seems like a good point to gamble for it. Or you could check and checkraise allin maybe as that might give you a better chance of folding someone out.
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Old 10-01-2006, 01:35 PM
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Default Re: Nut Flush Draw on Small Stack

I'd checkraise him out of his chair...
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Old 10-01-2006, 01:55 PM
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Default Re: Nut Flush Draw on Small Stack

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I'd checkraise him out of his chair...

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Old 10-01-2006, 02:02 PM
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Default Re: Nut Flush Draw on Small Stack

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I'd checkraise him out of his chair... and watch him stumble into the cocktail waitress and manage to get her number while headed to the ground.

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Old 10-01-2006, 06:19 PM
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Default Re: Nut Flush Draw on Small Stack

How about shoving on the flop?
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Old 10-01-2006, 09:27 PM
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Default Re: Nut Flush Draw on Small Stack

I shove on flop. You only have ace high now after all. Last thing you want to see is the turn. Get it all in now.
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Old 10-01-2006, 10:48 PM
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Default Re: Nut Flush Draw on Small Stack

Shoving the flop is betting 2100 into a pot of 500. This is a huge overbet. Check-raising all-in creates a bigger pot for you to win with pretty much the same amount of fold equity. Also, the check/raise all-in isnt quite as big of an overbet.
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Old 10-02-2006, 12:33 AM
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Default Re: Nut Flush Draw on Small Stack

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Shoving the flop is betting 2100 into a pot of 500. This is a huge overbet. Check-raising all-in creates a bigger pot for you to win with pretty much the same amount of fold equity. Also, the check/raise all-in isnt quite as big of an overbet.

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Agreed. The open push essentially lays our cards face up on the table and, IMO, gives us LESS fold equity than a checkraise. This route has higher risk, lower reward than a checkraise.

Also, by checking we may get to see the turn for free. I love getting infinite odds to hit when offered...
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Old 10-02-2006, 06:57 AM
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Default Re: Nut Flush Draw on Small Stack

What if it is check check on the flop and I don't hit the turn? Do I try another check raise all-in, shove, or pot bet?
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