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Gross QQ Flop
I felt so gross when this hand flopped. I have no reads as villain just sat down and I have no hands in history with him. Do I make a c-bet? Is c/f too weak?
Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter) Hero (SB): $208.90 BB: $79.10 UTG: $84.05 CO: $58.95 BTN: $104.25 Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 Players) UTG folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $3.50</font>, BTN folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $12.00</font>, BB folds, CO calls $8.50 Flop: ($25) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players) Hero....... Also, if hero c-bets and villain pushes, is this an instacall due to stacks? |
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Re: Gross QQ Flop
I'm pretty sure I want to get it AI on this flop against the shortstack. Standard line is c-bet call a shove, but I think that makes it hard to get it in against most hands you beat. I think I like a C/R even though it's and odd line after 3-betting. I doubt he's good enough to realize that checking is such a weird play by his stack size. I think this is the easiest way to get him to stick his chips in.
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Re: Gross QQ Flop
raise more preflop, I like 14 or so. if he calls then c/f flop is fine
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#4
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Re: Gross QQ Flop
Bump for morning crew
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Re: Gross QQ Flop
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I'm pretty sure I want to get it AI on this flop against the shortstack. Standard line is c-bet call a shove, but I think that makes it hard to get it in against most hands you beat. I think I like a C/R even though it's and odd line after 3-betting. I doubt he's good enough to realize that checking is such a weird play by his stack size. I think this is the easiest way to get him to stick his chips in. [/ QUOTE ] I agree with this thinking. If he checks behind I make a strong bet on a non-scary turn card. Otherwise, Getting to showdown with 25 in this pot is not the end of the world. |
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Re: Gross QQ Flop
I bet call here. Interesting hand in that CO has pretty much the most annoying stack size for your hand and the board.
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Re: Gross QQ Flop
I check the flop and proceed with caution. He will hardly ever bluff in this spot.
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Re: Gross QQ Flop
Stack size is annoying, but it is one of those spots where I agree to getting it all in v. an unknown who just sat with a short stack.
I prefer check/calling or check/raising the flop. If we're commited to this hand, give him a chance bluff. |
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Re: Gross QQ Flop
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I bet call here. Interesting hand in that CO has pretty much the most annoying stack size for your hand and the board. [/ QUOTE ] Problem with bet/call is that most things you beat fold and hands which you are behind, shove and price you in. Check/Shove, opens up a better chance of getting it in ahead. Is my logic off here? |
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Re: Gross QQ Flop
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[ QUOTE ] I bet call here. Interesting hand in that CO has pretty much the most annoying stack size for your hand and the board. [/ QUOTE ] Problem with bet/call is that most things you beat fold and hands which you are behind, shove and price you in. Check/Shove, opens up a better chance of getting it in ahead. Is my logic off here? [/ QUOTE ] I like this logic here alot. |
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