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Fold AKo to an open gross-overbet?
I think this might be a leak in my game, but I really don't feel comfortable calling off a large portion-all of my stack with AK.
In this situation I feel that his raise commits him to the pot, meaning he is essentially raising all in. So, I feel that my only options are calling and pushing/calling AI on any flop, pushing PF, or folding. I would appreciate any and all feedback on this hand: $50 live tournament. 16 players, 4 paid. We are down to 4. Villain is a tricky, fearless, LAG player; at this point he is probably the best player at the table. Stack Sizes: Villain 15,000 Hero 13,000 SB 8,000 BB 12,000 Hero is the button with A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Villain opens by taking all his highest-denomination chips, and stating, "all the whites"--amounting to a raise of about 8,000-9,000. Hero? |
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Re: Fold AKo to an open gross-overbet?
I shove. You are ITM and have a 50/50 shot at taking a dominant position right here. You are correct that you have no FE here as villian will call getting >3:1.
What has villian opened in the past? What are the blinds + antes? Unless you can put him on exactly AA or KK, you have the equity to race here and the outcome is really good - you either take away the "best player's" advantage by shoving pf and double up or you collect 4th place monies knowing you made the correct play. |
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Re: Fold AKo to an open gross-overbet?
I doubt they are so unusually low it matters but what are the blinds?
I do not see why you would want to think about getting away from AK against a player you have described as a tricky lag in a four handed game. Again, we do not know the blinds but they would have to be extremely small (which I doubt they are at this point in a tournament) for me to really even think about laying this down. Shove. |
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Re: Fold AKo to an open gross-overbet?
Sorry, blinds are 400/800, no ante
He opens any pair, probably AJ+ four-handed, maybe ATo, A9s+. My overwhelming feeling though is that he's doing this with a pair. Suppose that is the case, should I take the negative end of a coin flip for my whole stack? (I might add here that I would consider myself to be the next best player at the table, and if I do take this hand, I am almost a lock to take it down) |
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Re: Fold AKo to an open gross-overbet?
You are ahead of the first range you mentioned (AJ+, any pair) though BARELY.
If you think he does this with nothing but a pair and any pair then you can obviously fold. But you can't honestly tell me his range is "any pair" and includes no aces or anything else. |
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Re: Fold AKo to an open gross-overbet?
[ QUOTE ]
Sorry, blinds are 400/800, no ante He opens any pair, probably AJ+ four-handed, maybe ATo, A9s+. My overwhelming feeling though is that he's doing this with a pair. Suppose that is the case, should I take the negative end of a coin flip for my whole stack? (I might add here that I would consider myself to be the next best player at the table, and if I do take this hand, I am almost a lock to take it down) [/ QUOTE ] With these blinds, your skill advantage is negated somewhat. The chip leader has an M of 12. 48 hands to busto. There is no way in the world I am folding here. Also, the range you assign is WAY too tight for a 'tricky LAG' chip leader 4 handed. Now, maybe he has a different range for this size of bet, you haven't told us about any of his previous hands raise sizes. But a standard opening range for a tricky LAG 4 handed, I would say would be more like any pair, any ace, most kings, any 2 broadway, suited connectors down to 67 or so. He wants to bully you around and use his chip leadership, right? It's clearly working, you want to lay AK preflop with an M of 10. |
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Re: Fold AKo to an open gross-overbet?
if he had aces or king I dont think he would be raising this much. easy shove. You are 4-handed here...dont expect to see many aces or kings.
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Re: Fold AKo to an open gross-overbet?
Another thing here. If he is a smart player then he will realize the size of the bet essentially does not matter.
You have 12K - 15 BBs. So even a 4-5 BB bet means he is calling any push from any of the other players including you if he has a hand he actually "should" be raising with. It's late tournament, low M poker. It's four handed. You want your money in the middle preflop with AK in this situation. |
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Re: Fold AKo to an open gross-overbet?
Easiest shove in the world.
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Re: Fold AKo to an open gross-overbet?
you are for sure ahead of his range here. and i think that given that he is a LAG player, 4-handed, you are assigning him too tight a range. but you were at the table, not me.
your M is like 10.8 but since you are 4-handed, your effective M is more like 4.8. you HAVE to shove here. how are you going to let this go? we're trying to win this thing, right? what hand are you waiting for? |
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