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Old 09-06-2007, 07:48 PM
DeathDonkey DeathDonkey is offline
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Default Live 75/150 bottom two

Live semi private Crazy Mike game. Has been 4 handed most of the night, I'd say BB's PFR is around 10% in this game (tight passive). Though postflop he is a bit more normal aggression wise though very straightforward and not a bluffer.

I've CRed the turn probably 5 times in the last hour and always shown a monster hit on the turn. Though recently I did semibluff raise the BB with 32o (don't ask) on the turn and showed the bluff when he folded the river.

Crazy Mike open limps on button, I complete one chip with 64s, BB raises we both call and I'm scared.

Flop is QT4 two tone not my suit, BB bets, Mike folds, I call.

Turn is a 6 and puts second flush draw out I CR he 3 bets very confidently.

How many bets do I want to go into the pot now and how best to make that happen?

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Old 09-06-2007, 08:01 PM
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Default Re: Live 75/150 bottom two

The minimum, and by check calling? lol, call me unimaginative but that's my recommendation.
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Old 09-06-2007, 08:07 PM
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Default Re: Live 75/150 bottom two

Even if behind, he has a million outs. Equity not that good. Call and check call.
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Old 09-06-2007, 08:11 PM
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Default Re: Live 75/150 bottom two

Part of me says you want 3 more bets going in, which means you basically have to call, checkraise the river, and fold to a river 3-bet. This plan also allows you to bail if the river brings a horrible Q or T.
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Old 09-06-2007, 09:42 PM
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Default Re: Live 75/150 bottom two

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Part of me says you want 3 more bets going in, which means you basically have to call, checkraise the river, and fold to a river 3-bet. This plan also allows you to bail if the river brings a horrible Q or T.

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Since he's always betting the river here I think I agree w/joker. I'd want to 4 bet the turn though b/c I think you have the best hand. His range is heavy toward AA, KK, and AQ although TT and QQ are also possibie. You def want 3 more bets going into the pot, the only question is the best way to do it.
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Old 09-06-2007, 10:46 PM
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His range is heavy toward AA, KK, and AQ although TT and QQ are also possibie.

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Given that this is 4-handed and DD has an aggressive image (whether he has the goods or is bluffing, he likes raising the turn), villain's range is a bit wider than this IMO.
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Old 09-07-2007, 10:54 AM
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Default Re: Live 75/150 bottom two

I don't think his range is really larger then AA, KK, AQ, TT, QQ. I can't imagine he raised on the BB PF with 66 44,QT (maybe he is on a fancy play with QT's),Q6, Q4, T6, T4.

Maybe i'm retarded but Imo you have to 4bet the turn and (even if it seems weak) c/c the majority of the river because so many cards can hurt you there if he was 3betting the turn lightly.
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Old 09-06-2007, 08:07 PM
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i think if he puts in another raise somewhere you lose but you have enough hand that you want 2 more bets going in (especially since you just showed that bluff). i'd call the turn 3-bet, make sure i don't get counterfeit on the river and c/r again.
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Old 09-07-2007, 03:37 AM
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i think if he puts in another raise somewhere you lose but you have enough hand that you want 2 more bets going in (especially since you just showed that bluff). i'd call the turn 3-bet, make sure i don't get counterfeit on the river and c/r again.

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Old 09-07-2007, 01:34 AM
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Gas. I mean, do you really need to call anymore if he freaking 5-bets?
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