$10+1 Stars: JJ on paired flop

[jmn32]

Villain is 21/7/3 over 43 hands - hasn't done anything remarkable but is probably not completely terrible.


Poker Stars, $10 + $1 NL Hold'em Tournament, 15/30 Blinds, 8 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

UTG+1: 1,570
MP1: 3,830
MP2: 1,535
CO: 2,205
BTN: 2,500
SB: 2,170
BB: 2,845
Hero (UTG): 1,490

Pre-Flop: (45) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG)
BB folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to 100</font>, 5 folds, SB calls 85, Observer folds

Flop: (230) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (230) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets 330</font>, Hero calls 330

River: (890) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets 1,740 and is All-In</font>, Hero folds

Results: 890 Pot
SB mucked and WON 890 (+460 NET)


OK, I think I butchered this hand pretty nicely, but here's my thought process.

Up until recently, I would have continuation bet here about 99% of the time, but I've been trying to stop myself in situations where I can't be called by a worse hand. Am I realistically being called here by anything but a K or a 7? Any other hand has no more than a few outs against me, so is giving a free card really that bad?

After I check the flop, I'm setting up for him to bluff the turn - the overbet threw me a little, and at the time I thought this made the call even more correct, but I guess he could be trying to protect his K from thye flush draw?

I didn't see what I beat when he shoved the river.

So what is it? Always cbet? Fold turn?

Any advice appreciated.

[PBFan]

ezfold.

[jmn32]

Turn or river?

[JammyDodga]

If his overbet is to pretect against flush, why is he pushing the river? His line doesnt really make sense here, so consider calling just cos I'm like that...

[doodydota]

This could be easily a bluff. He knows u can't virtually never have a flush on the river so it's a perfect spot to push you of your hand. Especially if he's got the A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

I would call if I had a good day.

[wizard]

You have to cbet here. It cal be folded if he raises and you can see a free turn and river if he calls. His action to your flop bet defines his hand much more than his turn and river bet do.
As played, you need to muck to his turn bet or, if you felt strongly about the size of his bet, push. Do not call.

[jchauvin]

pf/flop fine. id probably just fold the turn.

[SengioKang]

PBR i stole your icon... i'm sorry. but i am also pot committed. they should make a deck of cards w/ bad thing references... pills, needles, leaves, etc... if they can make an Iraq most wanted deck... they can make a deck like that. if anyone steals my idea and makes a million dollars on this, it will be copyrighted right here... and i'll expect royalties, cuz every college kid will buy your decks [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

BUT I DIGRESS.....
I don't see why you don't CBet this flop... your actions scream ace queen. fire out on the flop and make some money and find out where you're at. the guy's line is solid like mine. u'll find alot of the time from a SB call like this it's AX or a PP. KQ maybe... take a stab find out where u're at. if he check raises you it's KQ...

don't stack off on the turn either... at least make a min raise in delayed cbet fashion.

[Dave D]

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You have to cbet here. It cal be folded if he raises and you can see a free turn and river if he calls. His action to your flop bet defines his hand much more than his turn and river bet do.
As played, you need to muck to his turn bet or, if you felt strongly about the size of his bet, push. Do not call.

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Yeah, c-bet the flop. That way you can fold to a raise or get to river cheap.

[SuperUberBob]

I might bring myself to call here. The overbets are totally throwing me off. You've played this hand really weakly and villain might think that a giant overbet could push you off of your hand. I think he bluffs often enough here to induce a call out of me.