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#21
09-17-2007, 09:46 PM
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Re: Good, Deep, Fantasy/Sci-Fi Series (for Older Readers)
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I havent read a better fantasy series than any of the Shannara serieses (terry brooks) [/ QUOTE ] The Sword of Shannara was the first fantasy book I read oh so many years ago. I got it because the title was cool, the cover was interesting, it was huge, and the description on the back was cool. Many years later I've read every Shannara book and enjoyed the series immensely. I never quite got into his Kingdom of Landover stuff, or the Knight and the Word, although the 'Shannara' in his new "Genesis of Shannara" worked on me and I read it recently. Not bad but nothing like the old stuff. I've mentioned Steven Erikson on these boards before, mostly any time someone mentions Jordan or Martin. The world Erikson's created is the deepest, broadest, most interesting I've experienced. He's more 'adult', like Martin, but brings in more magic without making it childish. The first book took me probably 100 pages or so to get into it, but trust me, I'm on the 7th in the series and the first six went from intriguing me to solidifying Erikson as my favorite fantasy writer. Fantasy is really subjective (like anything I guess) and I'm sure it depends on why you read it, but I haven't seen Brooks mentioned much here, so maybe there's something I like about his writing that I've found again. I don't know, I just have to recommend him sincerely to anyone interested in something different but great. Here's a few links to the series: (1st) http://www.amazon.com/Gardens-Moon-Malaz...9029&sr=8-3 (2nd) http://www.amazon.com/Deadhouse-Gates-Ma...9874&sr=1-1 You'll see many people compare him to Martin. While I really liked a Song of Ice and Fire, its starting to slow down for me, plus, I've always been a sucker for interesting and nonstandard use of magic and non-weapon based abilities, and Erikson's take on magic in general is pretty cool. 
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#22
09-17-2007, 09:50 PM
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Re: Good, Deep, Fantasy/Sci-Fi Series (for Older Readers)
Surprised not to see Terry Goodkind's Sword of Truth series up here. The first few books were pretty good, especially if you like Jordan. Then in the middle of the series it gets REALLY preachy and moralizing and long and bad. The final book comes out in a month or two, supposedly it is much more like the early books than the middle ones. Its not the greatest writing ever, but perhaps less teenaged and more what OP is looking for.
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#24
09-17-2007, 10:18 PM
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Re: Good, Deep, Fantasy/Sci-Fi Series (for Older Readers)
Neuromancer is good. It is a seminal work in the cyberpunk field. I think the whole Sprawl trilogy is pretty good, too.
I am biased because I like cyberpunk genre stuff.
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#26
09-17-2007, 10:25 PM
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Re: Good, Deep, Fantasy/Sci-Fi Series (for Older Readers)
I agree the Amber series was the illest [censored] ive ever read i really wish he had not died before completion. WOW SUCH AN AWESOME READ.
Also liked Ben Bova's Orion series, and Mercedes Lackey's series all the way from the Black Gryphon all the way through the Heralds of Valdemar and w/e is past that, jsut awesome. Skip the Silver Gryphon and the books about the archer woman and her mage friend. Bleh
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#27
09-17-2007, 10:27 PM
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Re: Good, Deep, Fantasy/Sci-Fi Series (for Older Readers)
You know. Cum. [censored]. Baby batter.
Wow, 'cum' is uncensored but 'jizzum' (alternate spelling) is stopped dead in its tracks. Fascinating.
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#29
09-17-2007, 10:41 PM
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Re: Good, Deep, Fantasy/Sci-Fi Series (for Older Readers)
Canadian author R Scott Bakker's Prince of Nothing Series is just as complex and as rewarding to read as George RR Martin's Song of Ice and Fire.
The themes are a lot more powerful and the historical parallels with our world and in particular our religions make it very engrossing. The protagonist is very unique and more than human but the author just makes all the interactions between the characters feel so real that it doesn't matter.
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#30
09-17-2007, 11:05 PM
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Re: Good, Deep, Fantasy/Sci-Fi Series (for Older Readers)
Science Fiction
Uplift War by David Brin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uplift_Universe Vorkosigan Saga by Bujold http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vorkosigan_Saga The Alliance-Union universe by C. J. Cherryh http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance-Union_universe Childe Cycle by Gordon R. Dickson http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorsai Fantasy Vlad Taltos novels by Steven Brust http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vlad_Taltos The True Game series by Sheri S Tepper http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_True_Game Books of the Swords by Fred Saberhagen http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_swords Just off the top of my head mind you...
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