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#31
11-15-2007, 01:55 AM
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Re: Phil Hellmuth best holdem player by far
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Can't he just shut up and play the highest games on full tilt? [/ QUOTE ] he already does, and he crushes them. He just cant publicly talk about it because he is sponsored by UB and isnt supposed to be playing anywhere else. I thought this was pretty common knowledge? [/ QUOTE ] kaibuxxe = phil hellmuth?? [/ QUOTE ] kaibuxxe is/was Niki Jedlicka 
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#32
11-15-2007, 01:55 AM
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Re: Phil Hellmuth best holdem player by far
levelfest 2007
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#34
11-15-2007, 02:05 AM
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Re: Phil Hellmuth best holdem player by far
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[ QUOTE ] I love how he says stuff like "I used to crush all the cash games 10 years ago." I wonder if he has any idea how incredibly soft those games must've been back then compared to today's games. I mean, live poker NOW is soft, can you imagine pre-poker boom cash games? mmmmmm [/ QUOTE ] LOL, cash games pre-poker boom were much more difficult than today. It's also why you could rarely find a NL or PL game. [/ QUOTE ] Level? Please?
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#35
11-15-2007, 02:13 AM
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Re: Phil Hellmuth best holdem player by far
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I love how he says stuff like "I used to crush all the cash games 10 years ago." I wonder if he has any idea how incredibly soft those games must've been back then compared to today's games. I mean, live poker NOW is soft, can you imagine pre-poker boom cash games? mmmmmm [/ QUOTE ] LOL, cash games pre-poker boom were much more difficult than today. It's also why you could rarely find a NL or PL game. [/ QUOTE ] Level? Please? [/ QUOTE ] srsly Someone with a ton of NL experience back then was probably someone who had played like 10,000 hands lifetime. Now with all the info available, with people who have played millions of hands and studied the game with tools like Pokerstove (keep in mind the Hellmuth who apparently crushed these games was the same one who thought AKo was a favorite over AK suited).... geez pre-boom games must've been 5x softer. If they were tough it would only be because they were incredibly nitty, or maybe you could argue that there's so much more just complete dead tourist money today in live games, but still with not even the best players being that good by today's standards, NL back then must've been cake.
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#36
11-15-2007, 02:19 AM
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Re: Phil Hellmuth best holdem player by far
Phil Hellmuth is also in the top 3-4 Ohama8 and Razz players in the world, in addition to being the premier Hold'Em player in both tournaments and the side games.
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#37
11-15-2007, 02:20 AM
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Re: Phil Hellmuth best holdem player by far
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Phil Hellmuth is also in the top 3-4 Ohama8 and Razz players in the world, in addition to being the premier Hold'Em player in both tournaments and the side games. [/ QUOTE ] 
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#38
11-15-2007, 02:27 AM
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Re: Phil Hellmuth best holdem player by far
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[ QUOTE ] Phil Hellmuth is also in the top 3-4 Ohama8 and Razz players in the world, in addition to being the premier Hold'Em player in both tournaments and the side games. [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] lmao
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#39
11-15-2007, 02:42 AM
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Re: Phil Hellmuth best holdem player by far
It seems to me that Phil MAY be the best holdem tourney player in the world versus weak/average players, but from what I hear, most good+ players don't respect his game versus them. Cash games, he sucks. Period. He can make some decent plays, as can anyone with a passing knowledge of the game. He has innumerable times offered to play someone hu for $100k-1M, and has NEVER actually done it when the challenge was accepted. Pretty telling right there.
Dunno why this keep coming up, and REALLY dunno why I am responding to it.
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#40
11-15-2007, 02:43 AM
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Re: Phil Hellmuth best holdem player by far
When are we going to get Helmuth's FTP screen name already?
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