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#11
10-02-2007, 12:46 AM
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Re: Orange\'s flush hand- NO FLAMING
Casper: You say that he will only shove higher flushes, but he'll call with lower flushes because he's a donkey. If he's a donkey, why wouldn't he shove lower flushes? In fact, if he thinks his lower flush is good, isn't he more likely to value shove it than to call down with it? I think you contradicted yourself there.
That said, I agree with Keyser. 
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#12
10-02-2007, 12:48 AM
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Re: Orange\'s flush hand- NO FLAMING
Keyser,
I hear ya, but... ok, take out the set hands...8J/AJ/A8/A4/lower flushes/higher flushes make up his range, right? Do you really think THIS villain is folding to a smallish 3bet turn? If you do, then make your 3bet smaller to increase his calling percentage...make it like 90, and then your river bet will be like 105 or something...even with your range, I believe this is the most EV line- though I admit it is pretty thin. The range you are putting him on and the line you want to take just don't make sense...He is NEVER going to bet the river with a smaller flush or a weaker made hand, but you want to ch/c the river? I think that line is burning money by 1)not getting value out of the weaker part of his range, and 2)getting taken to value-town by hands that have us crushed. I think raise turn/VB river>>call turn/bet river>>>>>>call turn/ch-c river.
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#13
10-02-2007, 12:50 AM
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Re: Orange\'s flush hand- NO FLAMING
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Button: $141.14 [/ QUOTE ] His stacksize makes this a lot simpler than you guys are making it out to be. 3bet the turn to an amount that discourages AhX or sets odds to profitably call you. Never fold after 3betting. Against this player with this stack size, not getting max value here is really unacceptable.
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#14
10-02-2007, 12:51 AM
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Re: Orange\'s flush hand- NO FLAMING
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[ QUOTE ] Button: $141.14 [/ QUOTE ] His stacksize makes this a lot simpler than you guys are making it out to be. 3bet the turn to an amount that discourages AhX or sets odds to profitably call you. Never fold after 3betting. Against this player with this stack size, not getting max value here is really unacceptable. [/ QUOTE ] actually, UTG+1: $986 :-)
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