tough spot in the middle levels with a q (100 buy in 20 k guarantee)

[Ben86]

opener is just glad he got vigorish w/ 4 left to act his range is very wide. i see people isolate here with AX, KJ, crap like that all the time. He has to make some sort of iso or the BB is definitely coming and maybe the SB. Of course youre going to see a monster sometimes but i feel you crush opener's range and are favored over isolators.

[stevepa]

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opener is just glad he got vigorish w/ 4 left to act his range is very wide.

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See this is kind've what I'm talking about. What vigorish? The "bb has check/fold checked so he might fold if it gets folded to him" vigorish?

[Ben86]

the 'okay just 2 folds and im up against the bbs ATC vigorish'

[stevepa]

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the 'okay just 2 folds and im up against the bbs ATC vigorish'

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Given your assertion that people are isolating wide (and even without it), this is worth very little, particularly when you have several hands to wait until you're the bb.

edit: to clarify, my argument is that while he should be pushing wide, it shouldn't be particularly close to any 2. Also, sorry for derailing the thread.

[Ansky]

id shove

[shaundeeb]

folding this is really bad so is folding AJ

[LuckyLloyd]

Shove.