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Old 08-02-2007, 01:57 AM
Ship Ship McGipp Ship Ship McGipp is offline
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Default Re: 100r QQ semi deep

what a train wreck, i stopped reading. i'd shove preflop, but sine you didn't, i'd shove after you called and checked the flop.

there's just nothing else to it, that's the answer, there are no other viable options, gg.
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Old 08-02-2007, 06:00 AM
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Default Re: 100r QQ semi deep

Jojje is down like $25K in SNGs. I'd probably just shove. (Edit: preflop ofc... flop shove seems pretty obvious to me)

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Old 08-02-2007, 07:04 AM
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Default Re: 100r QQ semi deep

Given that this is the bubble, I don't see how anything except shoving pf is correct.

I think calling is v v v bad.
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Old 08-02-2007, 12:40 PM
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Default Re: 100r QQ semi deep

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sorry, dont really care who is making this point. it's retarded and is incredibly elementary.

you make decisions that are the most profitable, not that lead to the easiest decisions on future streets

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Ok my point I don't think flat calling his 3 bet with this stack size is the most profitable decision is all I'm saying.

I don't appreciate being called out like that. My contribution to the thread might have been elementary (although how something can be elemntary AND retarded escapes me) but then let it be and choose not to respond to it. No need to be all dooshy.

Just say the word and I'll stay out of the HSMTT forum. God forbid I rub you the wrong way again!
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Old 08-02-2007, 12:46 PM
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Default Re: 100r QQ semi deep

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Given that this is the bubble, I don't see how anything except shoving pf is correct.

I think calling is v v v bad.

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what does being the bubble change?
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Old 08-02-2007, 12:53 PM
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Default Re: 100r QQ semi deep

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sorry, dont really care who is making this point. it's retarded and is incredibly elementary.

you make decisions that are the most profitable, not that lead to the easiest decisions on future streets

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Ok my point I don't think flat calling his 3 bet with this stack size is the most profitable decision is all I'm saying.

I don't appreciate being called out like that. My contribution to the thread might have been elementary (although how something can be elemntary AND retarded escapes me) but then let it be and choose not to respond to it. No need to be all dooshy.

Just say the word and I'll stay out of the HSMTT forum. God forbid I rub you the wrong way again!

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Your point was not elementary.
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Old 08-02-2007, 01:10 PM
ImOnWheels ImOnWheels is offline
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Well let's assume it was. An elementary point should be expanded upon and built up in order to get us closer to describing a line of thinking as precise as possible. I'm here to learn fellas. Thanks.
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Old 08-02-2007, 03:02 PM
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Default Re: 100r QQ semi deep

Calling preflop isn't that bad. I would bet it would have a very similar EV to shoving preflop.
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Old 08-02-2007, 03:15 PM
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Default Re: 100r QQ semi deep

god this thread is a [censored] train wreck.

someone please close it so we dont have 100 more posts saying shove pf (or calling preflop isn't that bad AND IT IS BECAUSE THE REASON YOU [censored] SHOVE QQ HERE IS BECAUSE YOU SHOVE AK ALSO, SERIOUSLY YOUR HAND IS EQUAL TO AK AT THIS POINT SO WHATEVER YOU WERE GOING TO DO WITH AK DO IT WITH QQ.)
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Old 08-02-2007, 05:44 PM
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Default Re: 100r QQ semi deep

Why do you care about meta so much tho were talking about two different hands. Ak does not equal qq here that should be pretty obvious.
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