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Old 10-10-2007, 04:08 AM
ASPoker8 ASPoker8 is offline
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Default 400NL - Play the board, shove the river?

Villain is PiS.ToTo. He may or may not be a regular (I don't know yet).

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (6 handed) internettexasholdem.com

SB ($391.50)
Hero ($517)
UTG ($427.10)
MP ($990.05)
CO ($447.50)
Button ($723.45)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $4, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $20</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $68</font>, MP folds, SB calls $48.

Flop: ($140) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($140) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($140) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $100</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $449</font>
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Old 10-10-2007, 04:11 AM
bigbabyjesus bigbabyjesus is offline
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Default Re: 400NL - Play the board, shove the river?

I don't like it because a 7 doesn't make much sense for your hand range. It'd be very rare for you to have a 7 here and any decent hand reader will call figuring it's a chop.. also you run the risk of him having 77 and stacking you. I just call.
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Old 10-10-2007, 05:03 AM
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Default Re: 400NL - Play the board, shove the river?

this is as close to a freeroll as you will get. its fine.
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Old 10-10-2007, 05:57 AM
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Default Re: 400NL - Play the board, shove the river?

bet flop, call river.
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Old 10-10-2007, 06:02 AM
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Default Re: 400NL - Play the board, shove the river?

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this is as close to a freeroll as you will get. its fine.

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I don't really agree with this. I wouldn't expect anyone to fold this river, coupled with the fact 77 is in his range thus we get stacked occasionally I can't see this being +EV.
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Old 10-10-2007, 06:11 AM
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Default Re: 400NL - Play the board, shove the river?

why do you raise pf, isn't sb raiser's range pretty small usually?

i dont like river raise, he's not folding anything. i'd rather bluff on flop or turn.
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Old 10-10-2007, 06:18 AM
T0ne D0wn T0ne D0wn is offline
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Default Re: 400NL - Play the board, shove the river?

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this is as close to a freeroll as you will get. its fine.

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I don't really agree with this.

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Old 10-10-2007, 06:20 AM
jfish jfish is offline
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Default Re: 400NL - Play the board, shove the river?

what multitabler raises 77, A7 or 78s stuff from the SB after a limper?
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Old 10-10-2007, 06:45 PM
Get_better_Baris Get_better_Baris is offline
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Default Re: 400NL - Play the board, shove the river?

dont like vs a semi aware opp.
u cannot rep a 7. hes calling here almost 100% of time
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Old 10-10-2007, 06:56 PM
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Default Re: 400NL - Play the board, shove the river?

adam,

come on, he can't be totally brain dead to think you're going to 4bet pf and then fold the 3rd nuts on the riv to a single bet

as for calling a 3bet pf, i'd call 77 and 87s/67 maybe 50% of the time. but i was just asking about why jfish was surprised at those hands being in villain's iso range, not his iso/call a 3bet range.
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