200 NL: Im a donk, when do I fold these?

[czGLoRy]

So... When do I muck these? Just went on a MASSIVE downswing and was playing like [censored], so when do I get away from these?

Hand 1.
Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand]http://www.legopoker.com/hh]Hand History Converter[/url]

BTN: $185.10
SB: $200
BB: $252.45
UTG: $344.60
Hero (MP): $200
CO: $336.45

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (MP)
UTG calls $2, <font color="red">Hero raises to $10</font>, CO calls $10, 3 folds, UTG calls $8

Flop: ($33) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $24</font>, CO folds, <font color="red">UTG raises to $48</font>, Hero calls $24

Turn: ($129) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $100</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $142 and is All-In</font>, UTG calls $42

Results: $413 Pot ($413 Rake)

Hand 2.

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 PL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

UTG: $318.20
CO: $41.65
Hero (BTN): $209.05
SB: $382.95
BB: $216.40

Pre-Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG calls $2, CO folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $9</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $31</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls $22

Flop: ($66) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($66) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $48</font>, Hero calls $48

River: ($162) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $162</font>, Hero calls $130.05 and is All-In

Results: $422.10 Pot ($3 Rake)
Also.. critique my lines if it helps. When do I muck these babies?

[Burdzthewurd]

Shove flop in Hand 1, lots of draws can be pulling that line.

I'm betting 2/3 or 3/4 pot on hand 1 and folding to a raise, I just don't see AA-QQ checking after 3-betting OOP. If he flats, check behind on turn or fold if he makes a big bet. As played it's a really tough river as 99-AA all have you beat now, along with club draws so it's a tough fold. I guess he had TT?

[czGLoRy]

yeah I probably shoulda pushed flop, but pushing blank turn kinda same results in this case. In hand two, he actually had AA and I was afraid he might be check/raising flop, but couldnt find a way to fold.

[Tooty816]

hand 1 i'm going broke on the flop.

hand 2 bet the flop and fold to a check/raise. As played, I'd fold river.

[Panthro]

1. fine. Shoving flop being so draw heavy is coo also.
2. fold river

[1o BoY]

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he actually had AA and I was afraid he might be check/raising flop,

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